The Impact of the Highly Impropable
I wanted to clear some things up. I always want to make clear from the get-go that I don’t claim to be any kind of an authority or expert, nor do I claim to speak for Taleb. I simply have been following this stuff and paying attention to it more closely and for longer than anybody I know.
I was talking about this book long before it became popular to hold up as maybe something one should give a second glance. Not that it is all the rage, I keep seeing, “This is a black swan,” “this is not a black swan,” “black swans blocking out the sun,” and on and on.
It’s not that simple and yet it is not so much of a mystery. In fact, there is a big clue on the front of the book. The title is actually – The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable. That’s all. Nothing more or less. The book itself is a collection of stories and lessons about these highly improbable events. It, in my opinion, is an attempt by the author to teach the rest of us what he has learned from years of studying the philosophy of risk.
His primary focus is not wars and financial meltdowns, but all events, including ones much more mundane. Notice the subtitle says “highly” improbable, but it shouldn’t necessarily be assumed that he also assumes “high”impact. On another level the book is simply about math, statistics, probability, and our perception of them. Versus reality.
First, Black Swans can’t be blocking out the sun. They wouldn’t be Black Swans in that case.
A Black Swan is a highly improbably event. It isn’t something that nobody predicted and that a certain minority feels its hero miraculously predicted. Anybody who follows this train of thought clearly doesn’t understand the book. Taleb spends quite a bit of time on casino logic.
He makes very clear that somebody is always putting a huge amount of money all on red at roulette and winning. Someone is always hitting the jackpot on the slots. There are always huge payoffs. This is exactly why suckers continue to gamble. Because they see this and the animal in them thinks they could be next. But he also makes clear that somebody has to win, somewhere, all the time. Even thought the odds are ten billion to one, all around the globe there are ten billion hands being played every second, so every ten seconds somewhere, someone has to hit big. Multiply that by how many seconds there are in a day and how many people were present to see somebody hit big. The people that saw that were obviously people that are drawn to that sort of thing. Chances are they may be playing blackjack in that very room the next day. Be on vacation and have nothing better to do but gamble. But there is no “luck” in gambling. Only the very stupid and the Chinese believe this (which is weird, since I have never considered the Chinese stupid, quite the opposite).
It is pure numbers. And any single person has virtually no chance of ever scoring big. And the fact is they never do.
Case in point: Is there anybody that is well-known for making their fortune at the Roulette wheel? – which, coincindentally or not, has the best odds of any casino game with the possible exception of blackjack.
It isn’t that nobody predicted World War I (many prominent people, including Winston Churchill, did in one form or another) and it wasn’t that nobody predicted it would be serious.
It was that nobody predicted that it would be what it was.
It would be as if circa 1998 I predicted that in the next 20 years we would have some wars and recession or two and a depression and the Dow would hit 4000 after going above 14000 and we’d have 45% unemployment in 2012 and I went on like this for 12 pages and everything made sense, and I talked about bird-flu and AIDS and peak-oil.
But then what actually happened was a meteor struck Idaho and blasted westwards killing 80 million people and knocking half of California into the sea. The US recovered in 3 years, turned the new hole into a tourist attraction and went on to its most prosperous decades ever under a new Republican Party after the failed Presidency of Barack Obama, who was ridiculed for not realizing the potential of Iraq which bought Great Britain in an all stock deal in the mid-to-late 21st century and built its first car in a plant in Mosul in 2018. The plant was run by a former GM employee, Alfred E. Neuman, who was layed off in 2009, joined the National Guard and ended up marrying a translator from Baghdad and having children, one of whom would make porn movies in Moscow, another a best-selling novelist, and yet another, the first woman President of the United States.
I’m not making this up. (Well, I am making this up, obviously, but my point is that this is what Taleb means – this is his point).
As far-fetched as this seems, Taleb’s point is that this is how life is. He has a similar anecdote, not as whacky as mine, but the same thing. I’ll look it up when I have a chance.

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November 30, 2008 at 3:31 am
nicholas
Go to sleep!
November 30, 2008 at 3:40 am
JR
I just woke up. What are you doing up at 2:21?
November 30, 2008 at 4:45 am
Dr.Doom
Sounds good to me. I need to read the book before commenting. I’ve got a copy.
November 30, 2008 at 4:54 am
JR
You just reminded me. I’ll send you the PDF. I need to send that to EE, too.
I actually have the PDF so anybody can copy and paste long passages for comment.
I’m sure NNT wouldn’t mind as he’s already made his millions on this one and I am an unabashed promoter of the cause.
I’ve recommended Taleb for Treasury several times and he will serve in my administration probably as the first in a new cabinet position I have ready called Math Czar. Bam!
November 30, 2008 at 5:44 am
Dr.Doom
Thanks. Did you still want to discuss WMBH or just drop it? I need to review the early ZK posts and check SB and Holmes’ reviews.
November 30, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Holmes
“It was that nobody predicted that it would be what it was.”
Well done, JR. It’s always a pleasure to see you analyze a topic and comment via mirthfully and expertly rendered examples.
In the spirit of commenting on what is conventionally assumed (presently, anyway) to be highly improbable, I’ll say it again…
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Obama, after a stumble or two (perhaps while attempting too hard to emulate his heros, rather than think for himself), turns out — to the surprise and dismay of many — be a great champion of American militarism. Hint: This guy hates to lose.
November 30, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Dr.Doom
Interesting idea Holmes. I’ve been of the opinion here and on CFN that the USA will use it’s military might, because it’s all the might we have left as a “power”. Also, if it’s not used (and used well), events in the global resources competition could endanger the US military’s viability in future when we really need it.
Tanks need gas, lots of it.
November 30, 2008 at 4:41 pm
MOU
Holmes,
Ya got to do something about BunnBunn. He is terrorizing the natives again. Geeesus.
Bad Ass Rabbit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEgNe89IzjE
Also, fits the highly improbable thread.
November 30, 2008 at 5:06 pm
dave
quantifying the absurd, big mistake.
November 30, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Holmes
MOU, good stuff. I wonder if we know the cat loving Canadian, going by the Youtube screen name Contagious Republic, who commented two months ago, “Lol, reminds me of bun bun…”.
This cannot be a coincidence.
Well, Bunn Bunn, you wanted to be famous, worshipped as a god, etc. You know this is insane. I’ll phone our Man in Saskatchewan in the morning.
November 30, 2008 at 6:12 pm
JR
Yarra, I sent you that file and dissappeared your last two comments. This message will self destruct in 5 seconds.
November 30, 2008 at 6:18 pm
JR
Dave – point taken. well said.
I still have yet to look up Taleb’s example, but I suddenly realized it was right in front of my face.
I saw for the second time the excellent, excellent movie, “The Bank Job.” (based on a true story)
The “true story” is very much similar to the example Taleb gives when he teaches that real life always seems to actually go this way. Again, the deeper truth and lesson is about understanding the true nature of risk.
November 30, 2008 at 6:30 pm
JR
An example on the war front that Taleb has mentioned briefly a few times is World War I.
There are still multiple competing theories about what caused World War I (mine is that humans like to fight), but it should be noted that the “consensus” view is that The Schlieffen Plan and Plan XVII, when initiated, could not be reversed.
Interestingly, The Schlieffen Plan’s dilution by Moltke is also credited by the same people as the cause of the war turning quickly into a trench nightmare.
Let me ask you all a question. I could ask this about a lot of conflicts, but I choose this one, because It is the best in modern history.
Why are we in Afghanistan? What are we doing there? What is our purpose? What would cause us to think about leaving? Who supports the status quo? What is our strategy? What “grand strategy” does this strategy serve?
Why aren’t the same questions that are asked about Iraq asked about Afghanistan?
Why aren’t the same questions that were asked of Sarah Palin asked of Barack Obama?
November 30, 2008 at 6:36 pm
EEofDC
“It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Obama… turns out … to be a great champion of American militarism.”
Holmes-
Isn’t that what happens as a matter of course when chickenhawks get into power?
“Hint: This guy hates to lose.”
My long experience indicates that’s pretty much true for all straight men. Not to mention… he WON.
Obama definitely wants to be an Alpha male. Very interesting that he, Bush and Clinton all had big father/abandonment issues.
He’s got a nicotine addiction that he can’t kick–probably indicates a boatload of anger underneath that cool facade.
Bush II was a drug addict–who has sustained damage from his using–and alcoholic who was not his family’s first choice for the Presidency. He and his father despise each other.
Clinton was (and may still be) a sex addict who used the closest female receptacle to reduce his stress level.
FYI: Jackie Kennedy was a chain-smoker and compulsive shopper. The only photo I’ve ever seen with her and a lit cigarette was when she and JFK were in France on a state visit.
The “US Presidency” is really a big drama/soap opera wherein the electee steps into an impenetrable bubble for his/her term of office. My choice would have had a few less personal issues to work out but that person doesn’t tend to run for POTUS.
November 30, 2008 at 6:41 pm
JR
Why is Barack Obama putting in place a team of Old Clinton and Bush People?
Didn’t he promise you change?
I think if you wanted Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden in office you would of voted for her. If you wanted Bob Gates as Defense Secretary, you would have voted for McCain, Romney, Reagan, or Jeb Bush.
Fred Kaplan who fancies himself a miltary analyst over at Slate is actually defending the Gates appointment. This is indefensible.
I like Bob Gates. I think he’s keeping a secret for Bill Casey and Reagan, but I think he is competent. He also isn’t doing anything different from Rumsfeld and he was chosen by George Bush.
Duh! Duh Duh Duh.
What happened to the Iraq War, Obama?
Barack Obama may be the first President who before he even enters office can be confirmed as a complete fraud. I may not know why people voted for him, but I know what he said regarding why they were voting for him and why he recommended people vote for him.
November 30, 2008 at 6:52 pm
JR
I thought when he and Michelle (they make such a lovely couple) did their interview on 60 minutes 3 weeks ago and he gave his opinion about a unified College Football Championship that this would be the end of this nonsense.
My sister posited that he has to do this stuff, or the media would be up in arms.
But anybody with a TV knows they did a repeat performance on 20/20 the day before Thanksgiving with Barbara Walters.
This as “asoka” assured us all that he was going to get to work immediatedly.
This is the Celebrity President from Hell. You thought Paris Hilton and Martha Stewart were bad. Meet Michelle Obama.
How long before we have interviews with the “girls” and the new dog? These two girls who we are trying so hard to raise properly and keep out of the spotlight.
How long before they meet Miley Cyrus?
When’s the Oprah appearance scheduled for? Will Tom Cruise be a guest guest? Jus sayin. Shoot me now.
November 30, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Holmes
I dunno, EE. It never occured to me that having a cigarette or cigar once in awhile is an indication of latent anger in a person, or more to the point that a smoker might be for some reason less qualfied to serve as POTUS.
JR, let’s toss this addiction medicine specialist question to the ZK intern, who should now feel free to raise hand his or her hand and be identified…
Requirements: under 25 yo, capable of typing complete words, and lurking for at least one month. I could think of other requirements, but… let’s start with these and see what happens. (Oh yeah, JR pays handsomely. So don’t be shy.)
November 30, 2008 at 8:58 pm
EEofDC
“…It never occured to me that having a cigarette or cigar once in awhile is an indication of latent anger in a person…”
Holmes-
If “once in while” were the case, it wouldn’t be a problem but with BO, the only way he could get her to join him on the campaign trail two years ago was to quit smoking. And he got busted numerous times during that time (that I’ve read about) so he’s not finished with cigs yet.
And in my personal experience over a number of decades, I’ve never met a heavy smoker who isn’t using nicotine to stuff feelings–usually anger and fear.
“…or more to the point that a smoker might be for some reason less qualfied to serve as POTUS.”
You may not be directing that at my comments but I’ll respond nonetheless. I didn’t say BO was more or less qualified than anyone else to be POTUS–just that my fantasy is to have a choice of candidates without these issues.
“Can one be addicted to sex with their wife?”
Angus-
Doubtful. But if you want to know more about sex addiction, check out Patrick Carnes’ book, “Out of the Shadows.”
November 30, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Holmes
“I didn’t say BO was more or less qualified than anyone else to be POTUS–just that my fantasy is to have a choice of candidates without these issues.” — EE
And I didn’t say that you said that! However, you at the very least imply that whether a person smokes is relevant somehow to their desirability (to you) as POTUS. A matter of pure fantasy? Come on. A matter of aesthetics, such as desiring the plumber to smell good when he shows up, I might believe. JFK and FDR were both smokers, I have read. That aside, you can and should build a case against smokers being qualified for POTUS, if that is your preference. BTW, in the interest of full disclosure, I haven’t smoked anything for a long time, and I am indifferent to whether others smoke in their own space and on their own time. As a practical matter, a heavy smoker indeed stands to be less efficient due to the high frequency of breaks, multiple interruptions, etc. Whether such inefficiencies are offset by possible performance gains resulting from nicotine absorption probably varies from person to person. As to Obama, he’s a gym rat and shoots hoops almost daily from what I understand. I rather doubt that smoking consumes a relevant portion of his time.
November 30, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Holmes
One more thing, maybe smokers have a greater tolerance for risk — for better or worse. Also, being a smoker just might come in handy if an appropriate circumstance arises for taking a hit off the peace pipe and not hurling over foreign dignitaries. Just saying.
December 1, 2008 at 2:48 am
Dr.Doom
having a few butts lying around also comes in handy for bee and wasp stings or any other nasty insect bites, like, say from cow killers* (keep in sealed jar). one has to chew the dried tobacco to make a paste, then generously apply to wound. it’s an old american indian remedy, i think. I can vouch for it.
*aka giant velvet ants.