Occupy Wall Street Protesters Storm Past Brooks Brothers and Banana Republic.
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October 2, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Dr. Doom
it shows disrepect to remove the hat of the arresting pig during the prosecution of his duties. other than that, a nice start at the second great american revolution. thanks for posting it, bif.
p.s. papa sends his regards from paris.
October 2, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Dr. Doom
it’s easy to understand why the owned media is blacking out the wall street and related protests—they are afraid of the consequences. can’t own it all, though, like the internet. go kids go.
October 3, 2011 at 4:41 am
Nudge
“This video has been removed by the user.”
Looks like Big Brother has admin access on YouTube.
I saw someone yesterday who had only heard about OWS the day before, and he seemed surprised about the failings of our supposedly “open and free” media.
Wait ’til that generation figures out that protesting isn’t going to bring about any changes .. things could get very interesting, and I’m not talking about flash mobs in the Goldman Sachs lobby either.
October 3, 2011 at 6:02 am
Dr. Doom
ya nudge, maybe the revolution will indeed “not be televised”.
October 3, 2011 at 7:48 am
dave
pissing into the wind.
October 3, 2011 at 11:07 am
theroachman
October 4, 2011 at 6:52 am
dave
October 4, 2011 at 10:33 am
uncle remus
dave, never heard of Caravan Palace. Interesting and I am a big fan of swing. I hear some electronic undercurrents that speak Zappa to me. But hell, I hear Zappa in almost everything.
October 4, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Situation
Yo my Zulus! Bam! I gots secret videos of Occupy Newbury Street. Ima be uploadin that shiz soon. With these jokers, the free world can feel real safe from the scourge of unregulated corporatism and whatnot. Spread the words.
October 5, 2011 at 2:38 am
Dr. Doom
Nice photo essay on the recent OWS crowd from CNN: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2011/09/us/hires.occupy.wall.street/index.html
October 5, 2011 at 6:53 am
dave
October 4, 2011 at 10:33 am
uncle remus
dave, never heard of Caravan Palace
nothing but the best for the zulukilos, all half dozen or so.
October 5, 2011 at 6:57 am
dave
i wish that i was a nyc cop. go out and bust some heads, then go out for a beer or 2 with the boys. fun job.
lok at the third or fourth photo where they’re “ticketing” the protestors.
October 5, 2011 at 7:42 am
GB
Protesting looks like fun. Free love…all those young women. Hey dave, why aren’t you there?
October 5, 2011 at 7:44 am
GB
I’m stuck here. That’s my excuse…and I’m too old and ugly.
October 5, 2011 at 10:48 am
Dr. Doom
that’s the ticket, “the dirty half dozen or so”. we could make a great film, starting with infiltration of the OWS crowd. our purpose: to maybe get lucky and score with the young women protesters. our cover: old sage band of DOM (dirty old men) offering our accumulated wisdom in economics, politics and war strategy for free to the younger generation. i’ll direct and advise on technical aspects, with JR and Bif as co-executive producers. the stars would be dave and GB, with a cast including roach, uncle remus, nudge and EE. bunn could do the PR and legal, assuming we could pull him out of retirement. maybe get a walk on from JHK or orlov.
October 5, 2011 at 12:16 pm
EEofDC
Damn. Wish I could breathe underwater.
October 5, 2011 at 6:27 pm
dave
Hey dave, why aren’t you there?
too busy with my tango groupies. this could be you, with just the smallest amount of effort.
October 6, 2011 at 2:42 am
Dr. Doom
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32545640Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy
October 6, 2011 at 2:56 am
Dr. Doom
The above was an attempt at linking to an interview on msnbc with a union leader who was very clearly stating why the OWS protesters do not have nor presently need a leader or clear agenda for change. If you can navigate to it, it is well worth listening to him speak.
October 6, 2011 at 3:04 am
Dr. Doom
“I don’t really get the impression that most of the protesters are simply bemoaning the fact that the economy isn’t doing well and would like to somehow get us back to the Clinton era. I like that they aren’t coming in with a clearly delineated list of complaints/demands. It suggests to me that, on some level, they are starting to get the fact that the fundamental problem is with the system, not the players. The fact that they are not yet articulating precisely what the problem is and what needs to be done is, perhaps, because they are still in the process of paradigm change and things won’t be fully crystallized until they come out on the other side. Still, they know corruption when they smell it and on some level understand that change can only happen if we stop sitting passively by wishing things were different. Identifying the beginning of a revolution is difficult, even in hindsight, but I suspect that this one will include people in the street looking power in the eye and saying “That’s it. Enough.”" -Dino
October 6, 2011 at 6:44 am
dave
” Still, they know corruption when they smell it and on some level understand that change can only happen if we stop sitting passively by wishing things were different.”
absolutely and completely wrong. change is always happening. we have no control over the process. we just tell stories about how we did somehow control the process.
October 6, 2011 at 6:52 am
dave
October 6, 2011 at 8:12 am
uncle remus
“a union leader who was very clearly stating why the OWS protesters do not have nor presently need a leader or clear agenda for change.”
Which means the movement has already been compromised. No thanks.
October 6, 2011 at 11:54 am
Dr. Doom
no, i think it’s a process. these folks have to first ask politely. once they realize that politely won’t work, then the real fun starts. “they’ve got the guns, we’ve got the numbers”. the french first asked nicely also.
remus, i can understand your thinking that way about the union boss, as i was skeptical until i listened to his interview. he did a very good job, not the stereotypical union boss type guy.
October 6, 2011 at 12:17 pm
theroachman
There will be in the US for many years the idea that Union bosses are nothing more than corporate shills dressed as one of the workers. Comes from the Hoffa Sr. days and the many imposable contracts made in the 60s and 50s. The Corparate bosses and the Union bosses new full well GM, Ford et. al. would never have to pay out the big promises made back then. Fortunatly my Dad new so even though he lost his GM union health care in 2005 and soon the rest of his pension he is still well ahead of others his age.
October 7, 2011 at 4:59 am
dave
http://i.imgur.com/Myff0.jpg
seems about right. everybody knows thier place.
October 7, 2011 at 6:27 am
GB
Born into middle tier. Transitioning into bottom tier, presently…but I’m not alone. Feets don’t fail me now.
October 7, 2011 at 7:16 am
GB
Not much tango dancing down at the bottom level, I expect. Maybe some peasant dances, like country, folk and square dancing.
October 7, 2011 at 8:08 am
GB
Personally, I prefer the 2-step shuffle. Gets you where you need to go.
October 7, 2011 at 9:12 am
uncle remus
Doom, there is no justification for public unions. None.
Unionized private business is a different matter. I personally have never had the need or desire to be in a union. Fifteen years as commercial/industrial electrician in an open shop state, five years as a contract elec. estimator ($100K+ estimates: schools, water treatment, sewage, fuel depot), union & non-union clients, so I know the labor costs. I also worked many a Davis-Bacon project with mixed union/non-union crews and union utility & telco company crews.
Humans keep reproducing, but the pie isn’t getting any bigger. The grab comes in all sizes and flavors.
October 7, 2011 at 11:53 am
Dr. Doom
remus, i’m a member of a public union, i guess, becuase the outfit i work for is public, or state. the way it’s evolved, we would have had more layoffs and salary cuts without the unions than with them. some unions are better at bargaining than others, so some suffer more than others. as you say, it’s a shrinking pie, so someone gets squeezed. right now it’s the lowly contract teachers out here. next, who knows. my plan is to exit stage right once the existing, hard-fought contract expires and the state comes after us some more. pay raise? cost-of-living? heh heh, lucky we get jobs, eh?
October 7, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Dr. Doom
interesting if true…
“Fury over corporate power in the US is spreading from New York across the country. Thousands have joined the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement, angered by the economic slump that may lead to a revolution in the country.
Robert David Steele, political analyst and former intelligence officer, told RT the US right now is much more desperate than people realize.
“We have 22 per cent unemployment and on our way to 30 per cent. We are 16 per cent below the poverty line and on our way to 30 per cent. There is no question in my mind that this is going to be a very dark winter in the United States,” he stated. “Unless the government restores its own integrity and starts paying attention to the public interest rather than to the special interests, I believe that we will have a form of revolution, initially non-violent, but with the potential to become violent,” he added.
Despite the fact that “Occupy Wall Street” protesters have raised everything from lack of jobs to global warming, there is a common cause uniting the activists, Steele believes.
“These are not stupid people. They are very smart and they understand that at root this is about corruption in government and corruption on Wall Street,” he explained. “And until you have electoral reform, you cannot restore the integrity of US government. So there is a common cause, but it is voiced in many different ways,” he maintained.
The protest started out peacefully, but now it is the third week and more than 700 people have been arrested on Brooklyn Bridge. And according to Steele, the NYC police have on the one hand been very well-managed and on the other hand have gotten out of control at lower levels.
“My personal hope is that the general non-violent strike will be used to force the issue of electoral reform,” he concluded.”
http://rt.com/news/usa-protests-revolution-reform-063/
October 7, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Bif
In my area of work (consulting in energy development and civil works, and this mostly abroad) it operates strictly as a “what have you done for me lately” arrangement. Ironically I’ve prospered during the downturn, but know full well that the end can come swift and without the protections of any guild. The prospect of concierge health care, dashed.
I’ve often said that I’ll hit homeruns all the way up until just before retirement, and then get whacked a week short.
After that maybe I’ll get trampled to death in a Jacquerie uprising.
I wish.
October 7, 2011 at 10:30 pm
uncle remus
Currently I am involved with network and systems administration, back-end IT work, half private, half government – almost all tribal.
“know full well that the end can come swift and without the protections of any guild” Exactly.
October 8, 2011 at 12:09 am
Bif
October 8, 2011 at 1:00 am
EEofDC
Hate to be a snob, but Alec Baldwin has certainly gotten fat since GGR….
The world is spinning off its axis.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/07/amish-beards-cut-off-amish-violence_n_999118.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%7C102654
October 8, 2011 at 1:16 am
EEofDC
Ha-a-aa-ha
Back at ya, dave!
October 8, 2011 at 9:30 am
dave
i’ve watched a lot of people exercise one of two basic strategies in life: let go gracefully, or, hang on till the bitter end. you get to pick your own poison; that’s the only choice you have in life. i guess.
October 8, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Bif
I’m guessing that, in practice, gracefully letting go ends up not feeling graceful. Hanging on to the bitter end at least allows you the spirit of the fight, and if neccessary the possibility of doing damage. Depends on how you feel you can best preserve the human dignity of you and yours.
October 8, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Dr. Doom
I wouldn’t think abou it too hard. What’s the use, anyway? Be moron like your wife/concubine/GF/hooker friend. Just be. Live within someone’s means. If not too sure, just fake it, and smile a lot.
“Act enthusiastic, and you’ll feel enthusiastic”.—Dale Carnegie
October 8, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Dr. Doom
and speaking of doom….
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/prophets-of-doom-12-shocking-quotes-from-insiders-that-are-warning-about-the-horrific-economic-crisis-that-is-almost-here
October 9, 2011 at 8:52 am
dave
yes, of course, it all depends on how you feel about something. no one has any choice about how they might feel about something, despite stories to the contrary.
October 9, 2011 at 9:24 am
GB
“…Hanging on to the bitter end at least allows you the spirit of the fight, and if neccessary the possibility of doing damage….”
Well said, Bif. What’s more, I personally believe there will be some brilliant, worthlwhile days ahead in between and during what would appear to be an inexorable tumult and mayhem…days when the Earth itself metes out justice.
In other words, I’m just hanging around to see what happens next.
October 9, 2011 at 12:11 pm
uncle remus
“i’m a member of a public union, i guess, becuase the outfit i work for is public, or state. the way it’s evolved, we would have had more layoffs and salary cuts without the unions than with them.”
Then I guess that makes you a part of the problem, not part of the solution. Shame, you seem to have so much potential.
October 9, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Dr. Doom
maybe so, but it looks to me that unless you’ve converted your money into gold or silver coins or at least cash, there’s a > 50:50 chance you’ll lose it all, thanks to a general lack of trust in the giant ponzi we call global finance.
other than that, and this new tricky weather we all seem to having, everything’s just peachy.
October 9, 2011 at 1:16 pm
uncle remus
“there’s a > 50:50 chance you’ll lose it all, thanks to a general lack of trust in the giant ponzi we call global finance.”
For a Doomy guy, that’s seems optimistic. Not so sure on the cash part, at least in the long run. And, then there’s the alternative skill sets should ones primary livelihood become, how you say, unnecessary in the brave new world of less.
October 9, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Dr. Doom
Healthy fish and dogs have wet noses….
“The book talks about how energy slaves in the form of fossil fuels are a way of paying for increased complexity, at least until they start running short. The book also talks about how things that should be obvious–like our dependence on fossil fuels–are masked by the fact that they are so much a part of our everyday life, and for many years were not a problem. In explaining this, the point is made that a fish wouldn’t know that its nose is wet–water is such a part of its everyday environment as not to be noticed.”
link: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/8429#more
post by JR’s hero, Gail-the-Actuary
October 9, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Dr. Doom
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Pieter_Bruegel_d._Ä._066.jpg
October 10, 2011 at 7:59 am
dave
the commons looked to be a fun place back then.
October 10, 2011 at 11:06 am
Dr. Doom
ya, now beer and pretzels have a whole new meaning, pour moi.
October 10, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Bif
Here’s another one.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Pieter_Bruegel_the_Elder-_The_Corn_Harvest_%28August%29.JPG
October 10, 2011 at 5:51 pm
dave
cutting wheat with a syth, laying in the sun for nap, so that you have enough energy to go build the cathedral; some things never change.
October 10, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Bif
OK maybe cut some wheat in the morning, then picnic lunch with the ladies and a little nap. Maybe do a some light volunteer work at the cathedral on Tuesdays. No problem its on a 200 year schedule. If I was an OWSer I would demand nothing less.
October 11, 2011 at 7:20 am
dave
i’ve always liked the idea of a 200 year schedule, for just about anything. i don’t know much about it, but i guess that they had teams of journeymen and apprentices turning out one or two finished blocks at a time. the master craftmen were drinking beer, fucking local women, and turning out a gargoyle here and there. all in my imagination of course.
October 11, 2011 at 7:47 am
dave
the OWSer’s, along with the rest of us, will be lucky to have a wheat field and a syth at some point, i guess.
October 11, 2011 at 8:59 am
uncle remus
“the master craftmen were drinking beer, fucking local women, and turning out a gargoyle here and there.”
Guild work rules dave.
October 11, 2011 at 10:57 am
Dr. Doom
a whole nation of cafe layabouts, figuring ways to dodge their fair share* of taxes, is what got the greeks in trouble with their euro bankster masters. they shoulda been moron like their productive ancestors, and turned out a gargoyle here and there, for the rich american bankster tourists. now we’re all gonna pay for their sins.
*copyright dave.
October 11, 2011 at 1:27 pm
uncle remus
“a whole nation of cafe layabouts, figuring ways to dodge their fair share* of taxes, is what got the greeks in trouble with their euro bankster masters.
Bullshit. The problem is that they even loaned Euros to legendary slackers and socialists, a country where tax dodging is the national sport, thinking this time it’ll be different. Fucking wanking banksters.
And fuck fair. “Fair” has got to be on the short list of most heinous words in any motherfucking language,
Barkeep, I’m empty over here…
October 12, 2011 at 7:51 am
dave
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/satire
October 12, 2011 at 8:22 am
uncle remus
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/drunk
October 12, 2011 at 9:06 am
dave
fair enough.
October 12, 2011 at 9:35 am
uncle remus
dave, fact is, only the sock puppet drinks, not the hand. Neither the sock or the hand saw satire, being dressed in so many truths.
October 12, 2011 at 6:25 pm
dave
October 12, 2011 at 6:39 pm
dave
October 12, 2011 at 6:42 pm
dave
October 12, 2011 at 6:50 pm
dave
October 13, 2011 at 12:02 am
Dr. Doom
October 13, 2011 at 5:21 pm
dave
October 13, 2011 at 5:34 pm
dave
October 13, 2011 at 5:44 pm
EEofDC
Ha! I knew it–”the Chinese Marmots of Summer”…
“The new family tree can also help researchers examine related groups, such as the types of plagues that currently affect only rodents (such as Microtus strains and those that have been found in Chinese marmots)—and what genetic changes might need to occur to allow them to infect humans.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/12/dna-black-death-genome_n_1007446.html?1318528673&icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%7C104165#s402321&title=Bubonic_Plague
October 14, 2011 at 1:32 am
Dr. Doom
October 14, 2011 at 1:33 am
Dr. Doom
October 14, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Dr. Doom
It seems our former president is having trouble traveling abroad these days. Something about being arrested for international war crimes. Wow, even Canada! I guess canceling the Mexico vakays may be next.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29387.htm
October 14, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Bif
Why does he need to go anywhere? I imagine he takes a lot of naps.
October 14, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Bif
Thats what I’d do.
October 14, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Dr. Doom
Still, it do reflect poorly on a country when it’s former chief executives are deemed war criminals by the rest of the “civilized” world.
October 14, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Bif
Agree.
October 15, 2011 at 9:08 am
GB
Did any of you wussies go out and buy the latest apple product? Stood in line and waited for it too I bet, like good little followers of the Technogods.
October 15, 2011 at 9:45 am
Uncle Remus
“Did any of you wussies go out and buy the latest apple product?”
Uuuuhhhh, no.
October 15, 2011 at 9:58 am
Uncle Remus
Been looking at new rifle scopes though. Nightforce, US Optics. Schmidt & Bender. Reach out to about 800-1000yds, off-the-shelf .308 heavy barrel LE bolt-action.
October 15, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Dr. Doom
someone remind me to call uncle remus first, before i go visit.
new apple product? is it a new iPhone? i could use a new cell phone.
October 15, 2011 at 2:59 pm
GB
“is it a new iPhone?”
It ain’t a jug of hard cider. That would have been acceptable..
October 15, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Bif
Speaking of bolt action 308. I want a 30-40 Krag real bad. Otherwise known as the Springfield Model 1892-99. My old man had a Krag but sold it before I came of age to take possession.
Here’s the 30-40 Krag in action (this sealed it for me):
The sound and visual effect is completely wrong though. Its a very loud gun and kicks like a mule. In reality Atticus would have been knocked on his ass and suffered a severe shoulder bruise.
October 15, 2011 at 5:09 pm
dave
need to get my cider working.
October 15, 2011 at 6:26 pm
dave
October 15, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Dr. Doom
when i was about 10 years old, we were playing with a stray dog that had come into our neighborhood. it had been adopted by a neighbor. it bit me on the back of my leg after we ran around with it, and i was too slow jumping a fence to get away. my parents were concerned about it being rabid, and asked the neighbors to keep it confined until they could determine if it was OK, or not.
then they explained the rabies treatment procedure they had at that time, and i became concerned about the damned mean little dog, as well. i recall wondering if the treatment –a series of stomach injections– was worse than the eventual disease, and my parents, both from farms in the south, assured me the rabies was far worse, brain damaging and usually fatal.
October 15, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Dr. Doom
i coulda been a friggin genius if that damned dog hadn’t bit me.
October 15, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Dr. Doom
I like Mark Flynn’s version the best.
October 15, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Uncle Remus
Mr. Flynn seems prepared for what’s coming.
October 16, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Dr. Doom
So my question to Dr. Hirsch is: “What’s so different between an involuntary reduction in oil consumption due to weak world GDP growth (recession) and a consumption reduction based upon energy conservation or new finds?”
http://www.aspousa.org/index.php/2011/10/weak-world-gdp-growth-peak-oil/
My point is simply his point, not much extension of BAU.
October 17, 2011 at 2:34 pm
dave
what does bau stand for?
October 17, 2011 at 2:41 pm
dave
i’ve always though that the the whole argument of a finance driven peak was a case of putting the cart before the horse. if there was enough available energy, the only problem would be using it fast enough. as the energy within any system drops, the activity within that system also drops; not viceversa. in the past we were able to ad energy to our systems, thus maintaining, and even increasing activity of all sorts, that is no longer possible; for whatever any of that is worth.
October 17, 2011 at 2:43 pm
dave
this is another reason why the ows’ers make me laugh. it’s like they’re whipping a dead horse.
October 17, 2011 at 6:13 pm
GB
It does seem like the OWSers are shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted.
October 17, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Dr. Doom
and to think that we saw it on Newberry Street!
actually, those computer models are ‘spot on’ with the radioactive junk arriving from Japan.
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/10/14/Discovery-of-tsunami-debris-matches-model/UPI-53881318628814/?spt=hs&or=sn
i’ve always wanted a glow-in-the-dark ‘hello kitty’ for the missus…
October 17, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Dr. Doom
BAU = business as usual.
October 17, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Dr. Doom
auugh, i think the point is when the OWSers finally come to terms with the fact that the horse is either dead or left the corral, and that closing the gate is a little too late now, that’s when the fun begins. see JHK’s rant this morning on the subject. he described Obama as Millard Fillmore, that was a good one, too true.
por moi, it was a little disgusting to watch Obama at the recent dedication ceremony of MLK’s memorial on the DC mall. if MLK were alive today, he’d be plenty disgusted with the inactions of that hostess cupcake we got in the white house.
October 18, 2011 at 12:20 am
theroachman
Obama is a push over that is for sure. People hanging on to the good times of the past. I often strugle with wether a soft fall is better then a hard fall or vice a versa. Hard fall might be better but Ill be damned if I would ever vote tea party.
Of course we could save ourselves by ending the department of energy. Stupidest thing Ron Paul has ever said. So Ron do think the states will be able to take over the job of cleaning up and storing of nuke waste? what a noob
October 18, 2011 at 1:28 am
thal
Mou, me wonders about you always. I try to otherwise, but wonders just the same.
October 18, 2011 at 2:11 am
Dr. Doom
Thal, I think I can raise her, if you wish.
Hope all is well out Portland way. Any livestock added to your farm?
October 18, 2011 at 2:17 am
Dr. Doom
These Nicole Foss (Stoneleigh) interview snippets (n=5) are superb. A warning to the complacent among us.
http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/2011/10/october-17-2011-diamonds-in-rough.html
October 18, 2011 at 6:05 am
Nudge
Thal – nice to see you here, hope all is well.
Haven’t heard from MOU all summer, hope she’s OK.
Meh, I need some shoe therapy.
October 18, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Bif
We are all captains.
October 18, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Bif
Doom. Thanks for posting Nicole Foss, she gets it. Sounds like she was reading TOD and CFN comments four years ago when all this stuff pretty much got figured out and beaten to death along with dale.
October 18, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Bif
October 18, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Bif
So shakespeare, how’s the view from the undulating plateau?
October 18, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Bif
(My question is to thal.)
October 18, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Bif
@Anyone: What is the post-peak role of ASPO?
October 19, 2011 at 4:30 am
Dr. Doom
Yah Bif, it’s all over now but the shouting, and i’m sure there will be plenty of that. I could get enthusiastic about our progress, if it wasn’t knowing there won’t be much moron.
Post-PO ASPO? Isn’t that an oxymoron? TOD is going down the same rabbit hole.
Hey, Dick Heinberg is coming out our way next month for same talks. i will go and heckle him.
October 19, 2011 at 4:31 am
Dr. Doom
some, same, what’s the diff?
October 19, 2011 at 5:18 am
Nudge
Doom, Stoneleigh’s “Diamonds in the Rough” post is phenomenal. Thanks for sharing the link. Her message is extremely concise.
October 19, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Bif
I don’t think people will ever get peak oil. They’ll just say things got fucked up and blame any group they already hate.
Peak oil is passing by unnoticed, like a flock of cedar waxwings headed south.