Here’s Arnie!

This just says it better than 1,000 words ever could.

Okay, this is even better.

This state has been fucking itself for a long time now. The best thing that could happen would be for the Feds to let California sort out this budget problem on its own, but what are the odds of that? Just for fun, if I were Arnie, I’d propose that 100% of the cuts come out of public education, which sucks here anyway. No one will miss it. Something better will rise to take its place. Or not. No one said there weren’t going to be discontinuities along the way.

But, as you all know, I largely live (live largely?) in a fantasy world. Some other blogger wrote…

“Californians don’t really have to make a hard choice between cutting spending and raising taxes since The One will surely force you and I to bail them out, but per that gruesome Heritage graph illustrating his own deficits over the next decade, the national reckoning’s coming.”

Arnie has already floated the idea of commuting the sentences of thousands of illegal alien criminals and turning them over to the Feds presumably for deportation. Who is more fucking crazy? Him or me?

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78 thoughts on “Here’s Arnie!

  1. Speaking of being all stupid and shit, I must have listened to Governator say “Fuck you, asshole” ten times in a row. The more times you listen to it, the better it gets. Try it. You’ll see.

  2. But bunnbunn,

    Where is the passion? You may need to be from CA and really pissed off to feel the fantasy of Arnie telling everyone “Fuck you, asshole.”

    Fightclub.

  3. Fight Club. Yeah, MOU… that was a cool video you posted the other day. (I thought I was the only person who had time to monkey around with such projects. [Various things are in the works.])

    AS is the perfect governor for the present clusterbudget negotiations. I can’t wait for him to show his true colors once he’s hit rock bottom and no longer has anything to lose.

    There’s passion in the movement of glaciers, probably, especially when a big chuck just decides to drop off into the sea.

  4. The populist will always go for the politically expedient superficial and heroic non-solution, which is of course is the most unrealistic option, and results in unneccessary, damaging if not devastating results. On the surface appealing to the idiots and many in the media, and causing ripple effect of collateral damage on the innocent, setting back progress decades. For the next two years others pick up the pieces and apply bandaids and while others suffer, but by then the populist has moved on and is elected to the senate.

  5. Schwarzenegger, assuming you’re talking about him, recently said he’s not running for the Senate. (I highly doubt he could win anyway.)

  6. I was just waxing generically about phony populists, and [sigh] not very well. There are certain breeds that especially tweak me.

    $20B is a big hole to fill. OK remember the feds say you aren’t allowed to use stimulus checks to backfill your shortfalls. Hahahaha.

    They need a punt strategy. Now might be a good time to raise concerns about flag burning.

  7. “There’s passion in the movement of glaciers, probably, especially when a big chuck just decides to drop off into the sea.”

    There’s certainly a lot of passion if you happen to be in a small boat nearby!

  8. No wonder Arnie got into politics. It looks like he’s been using a teleprompter for some time.

  9. Teleprompter… he, he. Doesn’t everyone have a holographic heads-up display? Oh, I’m sorry. Only the Republican model comes with that option.

    The term populist is almost entirely useless in modern parlance. In the same breath, you can apply (or attempt to apply) it to a disparate cast of characters ranging from Chavez to Palin.

    From an article in Reason

    In the late 1890s, Kazin wrote, “the original Populists made clear where they stood: The enemy was an ungodly `money power,’ composed of banks, big corporations and stock exchanges, that conspired to cheat hard-working, productive Americans out of what they had earned….[The Populists] demanded easier credit, state ownership of railroads, an end to injunctions against labor unions and a progressive income tax.”

    Nader… hahaha…

    Consider Ralph Nader, founder of Public Citizen and an advocate of regulating virtually all economic activity (save for that of the trial lawyers who so generously support his various operations) in the name of social justice. Although Nader has long employed classic populist rhetoric by claiming to give power back to the “people,” Ventura’s triumph using similar language inspired mostly fear and trembling in the self-styled consumer advocate.

    In a January column for the San Francisco Bay Guardian, Nader mused over the implications of Ventura’s victory, one of which was wrestler Hulk Hogan’s subsequent (and splendidly Dadaist) announcement that he was considering running for president. “Was farce replacing tragedy?” wondered Nader.

    While one might assume that a self-styled outsider such as Nader would at least cheer a significant success by any third-party candidate, Nader instead warned darkly, “There are potential voters in this country who might res-pond to a rough-hewn, no-nonsense candidate….Campaign consultants have used Madison Avenue techniques to create the slick images that sell their candidates.”

    Never mind that Ventura ran a shoe-string operation and that “slick” does not quite capture his personality (his most popular campaign slogan was “You Can’t Legislate Stupidity”) or his presentation (when a USA Weekend interviewer characterized professional wrestling as “fake,” Ventura replied, “What if I kicked the shit out of you? Then I’m not a fake, am I?”).

  10. Talk about a lack of passion. Maybe it is true that only six people regularly read around here. Doesn’t matter. I’ll keep talking either way. Better luck to you next time.

    I know you all have more important things to do than sit around and wonder why illegal alien criminals — because of their illegal alien status –potentially stand to receive more favorable treatment (e.g., commutation of sentence) than an American born criminal of similar notoriety/criminal conviction.

    Or maybe it’s just more fun to relax with the beverage of your choice and have a good laugh watching California go through convulsions.

    As far as I can tell, Arnold appears to be working as hard as he can to beg, borrow or steal money to keep this juggernaut of entitlements and services going for awhile longer. Does that make him a hero or just a clown? A lazier or more egotistical man would have resigned by now. But he’s locked into his position, determined to do whatever he can to borrow more time. Californians have been through a lot of strange shit, so don’t hold your breath waiting for the place to spin into total anarchy. Wishful thinking on my part, you say? I don’t think so. I know jaded and resilient when I see it.

  11. Bunn-

    Doesn’t California have a huge economy? My sister, her two kids and their various and sundry offspring are out north of SF. I have a whole gaggle of pals living in and around that area, so I do care what happens there.

  12. Listen, Bunn, I know it’s hard for rabbits, even godly ones like yourself, to learn how to sail a boat. It’s really not your fault. Your ancestors just never needed an opposing thumb, having stayed out of the trees.

    But, I have a solution: let’s get Holmes to buy the boat and he and I will take sailing lessons! You can just sit there, at the helm, barking orders and looking stern, or is that bow? Fore, aft, starboard, port. Nevermind. The important thing is to learn how to sail away from those state fiscal problems, with a boat full of food, fresh water, guns, ammo, carrots, and love. Did I mention the casks of Maderia?

  13. True, accusing politicians of hollow populism these days is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500 (borrowing from the famous movie line). I’m talking about jokers who, otherwise lacking the credentials and skill, cast themselves as the embodiment of “the will of the people”. Caricatures. Posers. My definition includes both Palin and Chavez, Ventura, and even Obama as well. Populists over-promise and are unable to deliver the goods and so they either move up quickly or exit. Chavez of course is different as he can crown himself king. Ah, it doesn’t matter, categorizing politicians is like scatology lab anyway. Arnie entered as a classic populist, has been in place for awhile and sounds like he’s morphed into something else, a hard worker, glad to hear it. Too bad the voters are demanding cake, poor dude.

    I agree California will persevere for at least awhile yet. Years. Don’t ask me how, but it will. Wasn’t the disconnect as high as $40B at one point?

    Everything starts in California and then comes east. So watch out where you point that shit magnet, please!

    Medicare will crush us all and we will have to pay more and higher taxes, those of us who can. Reform or not, it just seems inevitable to me this is coming. What am I saying, its washing over me now, I swear.

    Hey good news, I finally sold my house and land, and I did OK too. It only took a whole year!

  14. Was Nicholson even acting in that scene or just being himself?
    I sometimes get the impression that JN would have been one of the few actors that Kubrick wouldn’t have made take-after-take of.

    Anyway, here’s johnny…

  15. Yarra, I’ve got a biography of Kubrick which I’ve never finished. I stopped in the mid seventies and read about 10 pages every year. It’s brilliant. I’ve never gotten to the shining. I might do that tonight.

  16. “Who is more fucking crazy? Him or me?”

    Well, Arnie. He has been for years. But you are a close second.

    Who is better at grammar? Now that’s a different story. Probably you overall, but isn’t it “He or I”? Cuz like you’re the subject, not the object of the predicate? jus sayin.

    This is actually a tough one, and we may need to bring in an independent grammar Nazi.

    Wait? Bif? Didn’t you just move to New York? from down south? Why can I never get this shit straight?

  17. “I was just waxing generically about phony populists, and [sigh] not very well. There are certain breeds that especially tweak me.”

    You were actually doing very well. I tend to go into catatonic depressions for days whenever I run into one. They are far worse than the T-800 model Terminator.

    I found a decent one-volume paperpack history of the Civil War written in 1961 by a veteran war correspondent. I thought this would rescue me from my latest funk. Turns out Lincoln was a complete douche [my reading from an extremely objective source in 125 pages]. Lincoln could have given a shit about slavery. He just wanted to have his presidency liked.

    Yes, he and Obama have much in common (you saw that coming).

  18. Upstate New York was that fun, huh?

    When you get sick of Cali, give me a call, I’ll get you a good deal in Newton (so this woman tells me). Or Seattle.

    If Seattle would invest some dollars in an anti-zombie trench, it might become desirable. Like Florida before the discovery of the real-estate bubble and Chinese wall-board.

  19. So you never moved to NY ?

    Whatever. If I tried to keep up with my friends I’d never have any time for F1. BTW, your video is all the rage now.

  20. It is I or It is me?

    “Instead of the old choice between right and wrong we are now choosing a style; it is a choice that is much closer to the reality of usage than the old one way. [. . .] Clearly, both the it is I and it’s me patterns are in reputable use and have been for a considerable time. It is I tends to be used in more formal or more stuffy situations; it’s me predominates in real and fictional speech and in a more relaxed writing style” (Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary of English Usage).

    It’s her or It’s she?

    “In all but the most formal circumstances, it’s OK to use It is me, That’s him, It’s her, and similar constructions, instead of the technically correct but stuffier It is I, That’s he, and It’s she” (O’Conner, Woe Is I 186).

  21. Just call yursellf captain doosh. It’s Doosh, I.

    Fcuking morons. From Missouri, no doubt.

  22. Bif, yeah… Arnold starts out with populist ambitions. The people of California demand “No Work. And pay” (super obscure Moonlighting reference), thusly dooming him to a Sisyphean fate.

    How come the lefties and socialists aren’t bashing him so much anymore? It is because they are now too busy sneering at the people of California who had the audacity to vote NOT to tax themselves further. Keep smoking those cigars. Some sort of hideous financial arrangement will eventually get put together, compounding the problem and delaying any sort of real reform. At this point, the only thing that he can be seriously wrangling for is some future gig with the Obama administration. From would-be populist to socialist dupe. I still can’t totally figure him out.

    Doom, the boat idea is cute. I’m sure I’d look great sneering from the stern, or bowing for a port, or whatever it is you suggested.

    EE, like all good Americans, I’m sure Obama hates Californians. We deserve contempt.

  23. Are you calling me a douche, Bunn? Bunn? Bunn? Please. You need to consult me. We are friends. Bunn?

  24. Bunn!

    We are friends.

    Bif and I are friends.

    I will not accept that anymore.

    We are friends and we will deal like that.

  25. I ain’ callin’ you no douche, Willis!

    What you talkin ’bout consulting and shit? I need to go to bed. I’ll write you soon.

    I know you have Monoco coming up, so you probably have plenty to busy yourself with for awhile. It looks like a cool course. I actually checked it out on-line a few days ago. Different than all those Asian tracks.

  26. “What you talkin ’bout consulting and shit? I need to go to bed. I’ll write you soon.”

    The Cherokees and Doom and Nudge and those people were saying about doing saying about shit liker those people do. I don’t know nothing about it,

    I don’\t know shit about it. Ask Doom. I’m clear. Dude I’m clear. i swear I know nothing about it.

  27. I’m left out of a lot of shit too, trust me.

    We are friends!

    To the sensory deprivation chamber I go… good night.

  28. Of course, the Republican version of this has them in church and Wed. prayer meetings, leading Boy Scout Troops and sporting “Real Terminators Love Jesus” bumper stickers.

  29. Of course, putting a terminator through therapy like that is like putting Windoze on a Mac, without Parallels. Aka hammered shit.

  30. “in church and Wed. prayer meetings, leading Boy Scout Troops and sporting “Real Terminators Love Jesus” bumper stickers”

    Hey, I see that guy all the time! He lives right up the street from me. Puts signs in his yard announcing sunrise sermons and things like that.

    He seems friendly enough. Appears to be a construction contractor. Bumper sticker on the rear window of his truck. Industrious fellow. He just put up a fence to keep people from pinching his oranges, after the sign he put up last year (in Spanish, mind you) didn’t bring the desired result. Clean cut in an Eddie (not Jack) Bauer sort of way. I smile, wave, and keep my distance.

  31. “Hey, I see that guy all the time! He lives right up the street from me.”

    Be afraid. Be very afraid.

  32. “Could a paradox fill prescriptions at Walgreens? Hahaahaahaaa.”

    If you accept the premise of time travel or that technology will save our sorry meat-sack asses, this should be a no-brainer.

    Doom, did you see that link I put in oil production thread about China’s strategic oil reserve increases and the use of Google friendly above ground storage tanks due to geology?

  33. No, not yet, Donovan, but I’ll mose over there and take a look.

    Seems I’ve succeeded where others have failed in getting asoka to ban himself from CFN. Please, no monetary gifts, only flowers.

  34. Banning himself forever may mean 2 weeks, in Asoka thought. My analysis is as follows:
    Natural gas supply is infinite, according to Asoka.
    Natural gas supply is finite, according to reality.

    So when Asoka says he’s gone for good (infinite),
    that means his absence will be for some specific length of time only.

  35. Doom, you’ve earned yourself a complimentary meal out on the town the next time you pass through Boston. Good job! :) But AU is probably correct about Asoka’s notion of what forever means. Heck, whenever Realtwhore™ types try to sell me something, I remind them wistfully that I was priced out forever back in 2004 and that forever is a long time. Seeing them grimace is worth it. (and if those smarmy assholes didn’t think some of us would remember their past lies and bring them up again and again, well, too bad)

    I just hope Asoka is at least reading what was posted there after he left.

    One of the guys at work was trying to tell me how there was just some huge NG discovery that supposedly gives the UPL centuries worth of supply. Sigh. Remember the “Jack” oilfield in the GoM? Or that giant offshore Brazilian find that was supposed to be the next KSA? I’ll believe it when I see the price of NG dropping through the floor due to excess product availability, and not before then.

    I rest assured that NG is not the right fuel for moving vehicles and that the limitations of battery technology will effectively keep EV’s in the category of toys for rich people or institutions. If they want to put NG to work as a transportation fuel, it needs stationary turbines feeding electrified light / heavy / highspeed rail systems. NG-powered airplanes, lawnmowers, chainsaws, dirt bikes, weed-whackers, anyone? Didn’t think so.

    That last guy in the Landline TV terminator spoof was perfect. Apologies if this is a dupe, but did anyone see the same group’s take on the inside of the Obama white house as modeled after the show Entourage?

    The Hillary character is perfect.

  36. “One of the guys at work was trying to tell me how there was just some huge NG discovery that supposedly gives the UPL centuries worth of supply.”

    I’m guessing he’s referring to the new supplies of shale gas. Some people hear about this and think we’ve discovered a lot more gas, when actually what we’ve discovered are improved methods for producing gas from tight shale formations that previously were problemmatic. New methods for hydraulic fracturing of formations are being perfected and working like a charm. I don’t know about his “centuries worth of supply” but reportedly we are looking much better for the next decade or so (in terms of supply)than previously thought.

  37. In terms of new supply I’m thinking that, for example, untapped Alaskan and the eastern Gulf of Mexico supplies will eventually be brought into the mix and when this is combined with shale gas we’ve got perhaps several decades of robust supply, especially if we could use coal in power plants instead of inceasing use of gas in that regard. Methods for producing formations could be further improved. The question is the cost and affordability of the production, transmission and distribution infrastructure investments required to be bring it all to bear. So some are talking that gas is the “bridge fuel” to wherever we are going, and this could be true, whether it be a transition/softer landing or straight into a brick wall, I have no idea, but the thought of buying some time (while some of us learn how to raise chickens and can vegetables?) is attractive. As far as the role of gas in transportation goes it seems cars are out of the question but increasing the mass transit running on natural gas could be achieved.

  38. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/05/schwarzenegger-make-massive-cuts-to-welfare-health-care-student-aid-.html

    so i just don’t get this at all; or maybe i understand it all too well. anyhoo, this looks 3 paragraphs on page 3; no national coverage that i’ve seen. so ca, if it actually does this, shuts down public assistance and public higher ed and the story is a page 3 byline? is this just a ploy to get tarp money?

    and check out the comments: tax pot to solve the problem? shut down UC and turn the campus into business parks?

  39. Good morning SB. The guy at the office was one of those long-term WSJ readers who tends to believe whatever they say, verbatim. It should be interesting to see how those “new” shale gas deposits work out. Previous attempts to extract fuels from shale have all been prohibitively expensive, AFAIK, and all of the recent big new oil finds (Jack, Brazil, Arctic Circle) seem to have been left alone due to EROI issues. All of the low-hanging fruit is gone already, and steeply higher (and more variable) energy prices are the inevitable result. Conservation is the only sane strategy.

    Doom (the spiritual guide of the four horsemen, not the esteemed poster here) is stalking the human race these days. Whether we care to notice its stealthy progress, or whether we remain fixated on extending our cheap-energy lifestyle past its expiration date, is entirely up to us. But if the neowhatever cheerleaders at the WSJ feel like distracting the sheeple while the rest of us stock up on necessities, well, I’m all for it. Like the lottery, propaganda can best be considered sort of a voluntary tax on stupidity ~ especially if it keeps people buying those Dodge Durango Hemi’s instead of insulating their homes, moving within walking distance of town, and growing as much of their food as they can manage.

    My new internet obsession this weekend has to do with the following:
    http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/05/the_road_to_bankruptcy.php#comments

    Some of the comments are priceless. (Disclaimer: I’ve a sibling who’s very much like the Barreiro chick featured in the original NYT post and in the commentary following the Megan McArdle stuff. This sib thinks nothing of glomming onto other folks’ money and then bailing when the gravy runs out. She’s done stuff like get married without telling anyone about it, then trying to scam benefits by telling the family she was unemployed and broke. She is a classic needy greedy type.)

  40. ya, like any moron with at least half a brain or less, i prefer curly to shemp. but i liked that shemp called that guy an asshole.

  41. sometimes i think this shitstorm we live in is even closer to being the former usa than even i think.

  42. i think that CA financial has become my favorite story to track for awhile.

  43. dave, I do think you’re on to something with CA tracking. It’s an interesting state, and probably does represent the proverbial canary of coal mine fame. Once rich enough to go it alone as its own country, it has allowed immigration, legal and otherwise, to overrun its entitlements, and those are currently draining the coffers dry. I need to read your links, but what you said they said makes sense to me. What arnold is proposing is just the logical next step. The feds might step in to rescue for awhile, but those coffers are finite also.

    One of my favorite sayings is “bad news travels fast and it fast arriving”. I doubt we will make it past 2012 in stable shape regardless of new natural gas finds or cheap oil. New NG tech just translates to keeping from freezing that much longer. It won’t matter if gasoline is under $3 a gallon if one no longer has a job to commute to.

  44. http://www.ewg.org/node/27134

    Oversight Hearing on Natural Gas Drilling in the New York City Watershed Before the New York City Council Committee on Environmental Protection
    Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 1:00 p.m.

    Submitted for the Record

    Introduction
    Mr. Chairman, distinguished Members of the Committee: My name is Dusty Horwitt, and I am a Senior Analyst for Public Lands at Environmental Working Group (EWG), a nonprofit research and advocacy organization based in Washington, DC, and Oakland, California. I thank the members of the Committee for this opportunity to testify.

    For the last several years, Environmental Working Group has used government and industry records to track a virtually unprecedented increase in oil and gas drilling in the Western United States. Higher prices for oil and particularly natural gas have sparked this rush to drill as has the Bush Administration by aggressively promoting energy development on federal land.

    To provide some idea of how big this boom is, and what might be in store for New York and other eastern states, consider that between 2001 and 2006 the number of wells drilled on Western lands averaged 12,400 per year, the highest number in at least 25 years and higher even than the 8,200 wells drilled annually during the 1980s when the Reagan Administration opened vast areas of the West to energy companies.

    Until recently, seeing a drilling boom like this in New York or other eastern states would have seemed about as likely as Brett Favre coming to play for the New York Jets. But thanks in large part to hydraulic fracturing, the boom is here, and New York City’s water quality could be in grave danger.

    Environmental Working Group is not opposed to all natural gas drilling. But due to the highly polluting nature of the oil and gas industry, the likelihood that thousands of wells could be drilled, and the multi-billion-dollar cost of building a treatment facility to clean up contaminated water, we strongly recommend that New York officials not allow any drilling in New York City’s watershed.

    Hydraulic Fracturing
    Gas companies have already begun to drill in New York, attracted by a formation known as the Marcellus Shale, located under New York, Kentucky, Maryland, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia. Geologists believe it may contain as much as two years worth of U.S. consumption of natural gas. In New York, the shale extends under a large portion of the state from Albany to Buffalo including the upstate areas that hold New York City’s drinking water supply.

    The state Department of Environmental Conservation’s website shows that some wells are already operating in the Marcellus Shale west of New York City’s watershed. Platt’s Oilgram News recently reported that companies have been actively leasing land in Sullivan and Delaware counties that include reservoirs that supply New York City’s drinking water. In Sullivan County, Cabot Oil & Gas and another company, Chesapeake, had leased a combined 4,522 acres as of July 30; the county did not lease any acres last year. Delaware County had leased at least 17,000 acres this year. A spokesman for the DEC told Platt’s that the state had already issued 500 permits to drill this year compared to 507 in all of 2007. (The state issued some permits for substances other than oil and gas.)

    Shale is what is known in the natural gas industry as an “unconventional deposit,” with pores in the formation so tight that gas flow is slow or the gas is tightly adhered to the rock. Both conditions are likely to be present in shale formations. To extract natural gas from shale, companies have used a process known as hydraulic fracturing to increase flow of the gas combined with horizontal, rather than vertical, drilling.

  45. Bif-

    Dusty lives down the street from me and we’ve pulled him in to some community activism here in the ‘hood. We were at a big citizens event a couple of weeks ago when he mentioned that the Marcellus Shale situation was heating up again.

    Halliburton was the company that invented/perfected the horizontal drilling technique known as hydraulic fracturing–it’s very similar to the horizontal drilling for Saudi oil that Matt Simmons was concerned about when he started publishing in the early 2000s in that it uses HUGE amounts of fresh water to accomplish extraction.

    Of course, Dusty tells me that the drilling companies have not yet revealed what impacts the technique will have on the neighboring watershed (which is also adjacent to the Chesapeake Bay watershed) nor how they will dispose of the millions of gallons of wastewater from the drilling.

    The only positive thought I have on this is, at one point in the 1800s, New Yorkers had literally stripped the Adirondack Mountains of their tree cover for its wood “fuel” and the Adirondacks have since bounced back.

  46. “at one point in the 1800s, New Yorkers had literally stripped the Adirondack Mountains of their tree cover for its wood “fuel” and the Adirondacks have since bounced back.”

    At some point in the future they’ll do it again. Then what?

  47. Well, there are certainly trees in the Adirondacks again, yes, but not the old-growth virgin forest that was there originally. Give it a couple more centuries first, please.

  48. It was a wise move to replace Shemp with Curly and then Curly Joe. Shemp was a third wheel, just wasn’t funny. I think he was Moe’s brother. Oh well…

  49. Nudge, I predict they’ll be stripped again before 2030. Maybe even 2020, depending on how our complex society holds up. It takes skill to run a horizontal drilling and hydrofract operation. Can’t have the natives shooting arrows at you, either. Witness current Iraq oil and gas exploitation.

  50. I believe the massive clear-cutting of the Adirondack area over a century ago was done to harvest whole logs to be sold and cut into lumber, or made into pulp. Definitely not for wood heat. Not enough hardwoods. Lots of spruce, pine, larch, hemlock, fir, etc.. Therefore unless there is another building boom, which I don’t see, I don’t envision whole forests being indiscriminately cut down as before.

  51. Dr D, my sister (the nice one) and I have a bet about how the last wild eagle will be shot by some former suburbanate, living out of his or her out-of-gas SUV in some deforested national park, all to provide a last mean for the hungry chyld mentioned in that swingy little “baybee on board” sign.

    And then a week or two later, the two SUV dwellers will have frozen to death, but forever after the eagles are gone. Thanks, morons.

    The cockroaches could learn a thing or two from us humans. This is all Easter Island writ large.

    Jim doesn’t believe me when I suggest the locals will just take down the bridges across the Mohawk & Hudson rather than face the zombie hoard coming up from the city. Both of those are iffy to swim.

  52. GB-

    Whoops! Another Gracie Allen comment made by me. Meant to say the AP was decimated by all sorts of non-sustainble practices, including logging for the paper industry the tanning industry located on the south edge of what is now the Adirondack State Park.

    “This destruction of Adirondack forests became a growing concern after 1850, as the continued depletion of watershed woodlands reduced the soil’s ability to hold water, hastening topsoil erosion and exaggerating periods of flooding. Lumbering was not alone in impoverishing the forest: the tanning industry — http://www.frankambrose.com/pages/gville.html — depleted the hemlock; the paper industry consumed spruce and fir; and the charcoal industry devoured wood of all sizes and shapes.”

    http://www.apa.state.ny.us/About_Park/index.html

  53. EE, those uses sound downright, ahh, useful compared to the notion of millions of downstaters swarming into the area with new Sears chainsaws in hand, taking whole Escaladefuls of green wood home which they’ll then vainly try to burn in their pristine painted Westchester fireplaces. Usually that story ends when the clueless yahoo throws a cup or more of high-test onto the stuff to get it lit. End of both yahoo and house.

    Huh. Was there any harvesting of “new growth” wood back in the early nineteenth century for use as furniture & such? If not, I’m wondering if that 1827-vintage coffee grinder I use every morning is made of the old wood.

  54. Unbeknownst to me, Nathan Farb, a reknowned nature photographer of the Adirondacks, became buddies with my Foggy Bottom dentist (and friend), who owns property up on Lake George, NY. He took a class from Nathan back in the early 1990s in nature photography at Blue Mountain Lake.

    Coincidentally, I had purchased several copies of Nathan’s first book on the Adirondacks (1985) for myself and Upstate NY friends. Back in 2001, I walked in to Don’s townhouse and on one of the walls was a huge Cibachrome print of Nathan’s picture from the book of the headwaters of the Oswegatchie River, which eventually flows into the St. Lawrence through the middle of my hometown.

    Even more coincidental was Nathan’s photography work in the late 1960s in NYC. Thankfully, I was only at Pratt for a year and was out in SanFran for the “summer of love.”

    http://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/summeroflove/summeroflove.php

  55. Wow, EE, talk about small world .. I canoed the Oswegatchie many years ago with some friends. That was way out in the middle of nowhere and no one ever seems to know that name. Cool stuff :)

  56. Sorry for stepping on your post, Nudge! There are a lot of peat bogs up in the Adirondacks, and I vaguely remember talk of peat removal being an issue at some point in the olden days. The Adirondacks, Laurentians, Catskills, and the Shenandoah are all very old mountains, and I think the geography and climate are more conducive to pine and cedar trees and such–nothing “old growth” per se.

    There’s a great article in the June “Vanity Fair” about some old Republican Fossil who has gotten a hair up his butt about the “Bohemian Grove” out in CA and what his fellow club members may be doing to harm the Giant Sequoias–the mother of all OG trees.

  57. “That was way out in the middle of nowhere and no one ever seems to know that name. Cool stuff :)” –Nudge

    Nudge,

    Small world indeed. I’m impressed with your canoe skills!!

    Nathan said when he took the photo the flooding that year was off the charts and that he and his assistant had to canoe seven additional hours to get to the site.

    The Oswegatchie–named after the Oswego tribes–is a much tamer river by the time it hit Ogdensburg. When I was growing up there, an occasional sturgeon would get caught in the small power dam across the river.

    You should check out your library and see if they have any of his photo books on the Adirondacks. His work is really beautiful–he uses one of those old view cameras that takes hours to expose… really amazing.

  58. OK, I’ll add to my prediction. The next time the Adirondack forests are cleared will be for use as firewood. Desperate measures for desperate times.

    Ever read the book “Angela’s Ashes”? Section on life in Cork, Ireland.

  59. Dunno, I post there, so therefore I am? You mean of late? Let’s go take a look-see.

  60. 75 Comments! i realize this is Bif’s post, but is ZuluKilo pulling more comments than CFN per week? Holy shinniznak!

  61. @Dave –

    I’m sorry, you’ll have to clue me in. With all the race excitement this weekend, I’ve fallen behind in my homework.

    What is “CA Financial” again? remind me. Is that like Uncle Bernie’s Excellent Hedgefund Weekend?

  62. Governor’s last stand: his way or IOUs

    Reporting from Sacramento — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, seeking to conquer what could be the last budget crisis of his tenure, is engaged in a high-stakes negotiating strategy with lawmakers that could force him to preside over a meltdown of state government.

    As legislators have scrambled to stop the state from postponing payment of its bills and issuing IOUs starting next week, the governor has vowed to veto any measure that fails to close the state’s entire $24-billion deficit.

    In doing so, Schwarzenegger has sent the message that he would rather allow the state to begin shutting down than let lawmakers push its troubles off for months by closing only part of the shortfall. The latter prospect could swallow up the rest of his governorship.

    “Whatever needs to be done,” Schwarzenegger told reporters outside his Capitol office Friday when asked why he would be willing to delay payments to needy Californians. “I know that there is a history in this building of always being late with the budget, to drag it out and to kick that can down the alley. . . . I don’t think we have this luxury this time.”

    The governor readily admits that he sees the crisis as a chance to make big changes to government — to “reform the system,” he said Friday — with proposals he has struggled to advance in the past.

    Among them: reorganizing state bureaucracy, eliminating patronage boards and curbing fraud in social services that Democrats have traditionally protected. The governor also would like to move past the budget crisis to reach a deal on California’s water problems that has so far eluded him.

    ***

    California Controller John Chiang has announced that on Thursday he will begin issuing IOUs on the scale of $3 billion a month, delaying payments to college students, welfare recipients, the elderly, the blind and the disabled. The state is on track to run out of cash by the end of July.

    The governor has pushed lawmakers to move with urgency, but he has also made clear that his two priorities are ensuring that the state will not raise taxes, as it did in February, and that it closes the whole deficit in one shot.

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