The Bridge at La Fiere

JR has reminded me that the anniversary of D-Day is Sunday. It’s been quiet around here of late and I thought I might drop in this little story; something I wrote and posted on another blog about four years ago. It contains some photos I took at La Fiere bridge in Normandy, France. I was unfamiliar with the place until my visit, where I received a guided tour and was told the story of what happened here on June 6, 1944. The remarkable thing about this area, like much of rural coastal Normandy is that it hasn’t changed much at all. Same buildings, farms and churches. Same fields and hedgerows. It is possible to view the landscape and little villages largely as they were seen in 1944, however the secondary roads are now paved. Below is a brief story of what happened at the bridge.

(Note: Click on maps and photos for larger and better resolution images)

La Fiere Bridge

In the pre-dawn hours of June 6, 1944, elements of the 82nd Airborne Division parachuted into the vicinity of Ste. Mere Eglise with the objective of seizing certain key crossroads and other objectives that would block an inevitable counterattack by the Germans toward Utah Beach. If successful these tactics would help facilitate a rapid drive inland by the American infantry divisions that would hopefully cut through and isolate the Cotentin Peninsula.

Ste. Mere Eglise is about six miles west of Utah Beach:

Map 1. Path of the 4th Infantry Division from Utah Beach to Sainte Mere Eglise.

The road out of Ste. Mere Eglise continues further west and crosses the Merderet River:

Map 2. The situation around Sainte Mere Eglise and the road west across the Merderet River.

There is a small bridge over the river adjacent to a picturesque estate compound called La Fiere Manor. A narrow causeway extends this crossing over the Merderet floodplain for a distance of about 600 yards. These features can be seen on this reconnaissance photo from the period:

Photo 1. Reconnaissance photo of the battlefield area 1944. (Graphics and labels added by me)

Back then there were few bridges over the river and this one was very close to the Ste. Mere Eglise crossroad, so it was critical that the 82nd Airborne seize this bridge quickly on D-Day, as well as a small village at the opposite end of the causeway, named Cauquigny.

Company A of the 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment (PIR) was assigned the objective of taking the La Fiere bridge. Early on the morning of June 6 this group of paratroopers assembled west of Ste Mere Eglise and proceeded toward the bridge. They met fierce resistance by a German unit dug in near the bridge and occupying the buildings of La Fiere Manor but were able to overcome this opposition and take many prisoners. Not knowing if the 507th PIR had captured Cauquigny on the opposite end of the causeway, they immediately began preparations to defend the bridge from the possibility of a counterattack coming from the other side. A 57mm cannon (brought in by glider) was placed in the road above the manor in a position where it could cover the bridge approach. Two bazooka teams were placed on the far side of the bridge in foxholes on either side of the road. Rifle teams were positioned around the bridge, along the river banks, and in and around the Fiere manor house and its large stone barn. A shot up German truck was rolled over the bridge and placed in front of it as a roadblock.

Here is a photo I took of the bridge looking west and across the causeway:

Photo 2. The bridge that hundreds from both sides died for.

Note in this Photo 2 (above) that the causeway doglegs to the right. This bend in the road is a notable detail later in the story. You can also see Cauquigny church in the distance (between the trees).

Here is a photo taken back toward La Fiere Manor from the unfriendly side of the bridge:

Photo 3. La Fiere Manor as seen from the west side of the bridge.

Another photo of the manor buildings:

Photo 4. La Fiere Manor

Here is the barn which is the closest building to the river channel and bridge:

Photo 5. The barn at La Fiere Manor and the floodplain, looking SE.

Meanwhile…

On this same day, elements of the 507th PIR were to capture Cauquigny on the far side of the causeway. Unknown to the Allies, the Germans had blocked the discharge of the Mederet River near Carentan and caused it to inundate the entire floodplain. Given the high marsh grass this new lake was not visible from the air (especially at night) and quite a few of the 507th paratroopers, to their surprise, landed in several feet of water, and a number of them, loaded with heavy equipment, drowned. This is a photo I took facing north from La Fiere showing the floodplain where many 507th paratroopers landed:

Photo 6. The Merderet River and its floodplain to the NW, as seen from La Fiere bridge.

About a dozen or so paratroopers who landed on the far west side managed to gather together and by afternoon had occupied Cauquigny. This photo shows the little church in Cauquigny as seen from the Fiere side of the floodplain:

Photo 7. The Church in Cauquigny – opposite side of floodplain. (click on this one and you can get a nice view)

This small group from the 507th had just entered Cauquigny and set up a perimeter around the vicinity of the church when they heard, and then could see, a German armored column (the 1057th Panzer Grenadier Regiment and the 100th Panzer Replacement Battalion) coming down the main road from the southwest (see Photo 1). They fled north from the churchyard as the Germans entered Cauquigny. However the Germans barely paused, and several light tanks accompanied by grenadiers proceeded onto the causeway and headed directly toward the American defenders guarding the bridge at the opposite end.

Soon the lead German tank rounded the slight bend in the causeway (see Photo 2 of the bridge above) and became visible to the forward positions of A Company 505th guarding the bridge. When the tank was close enough the two bazooka teams stood up in their foxholes and began putting rockets into it. A second tank attempted to push through and around the first tank, and panzer grenadiers were now moving up in close quarters to the Americans. The bazooka teams fired repeated rounds into the second tank setting it on fire and the grenadiers were pushed back by heavy fire from the paratroopers dug in around the bridge and from buildings and walls around La Fiere Manor. With their bazooka damaged in the fight, one of the two teams retreated from its position. A third tank approached and the only remaining bazooka team was out of ammunition. In the desperation of the moment, Major Fred Kellam, the battalion commanding officer, and his S-3 Capt. Dale Roysden attempted run across the bridge with the needed bazooka ammo and were both killed. One of the bazooka men (Marcus Heim) then ran across the road and retrieved ammo from the position vacated by the other team. He then returned to his own position, and with his partner Gordon Pryne, they fired several rockets, thus destroying the third tank. With that the Germans broke off the attack and fell back across the causeway to Cauquigny. The survival of this bazooka team was remarkable as nearly all other paratroopers in the forward positions were killed or wounded.

This began three days of fighting at La Fiere where both sides pounded each other with artillery, mortars and machinegun fire from opposite ends of the causeway. The Germans made two more attempts at crossing but these were repulsed and additional German tanks were destroyed on the causeway. Photo 8, below, was reportedly taken of some of the wreckage on the causeway, the next day, on June 7:

Photo 8. Wreckage on the Causeway (June 7, 1944)

A tour guide that I spoke to at La Fiere said that the defense of a bridge in the movie Saving Private Ryan was inspired by the events at La Fiere bridge. According to him the filmmakers visited the bridge in developing the story.

In order to break this stalemate and complete their objective, on June 9, the 82nd Airborne sent the 3rd Battalion of the 325th Glider Infantry Regiment over the causeway in a full frontal assault that would dislodge the Germans from the Cauquigny area, thus opening the road in preparation for the invading force approaching from the beaches. This assault was joined by elements of the 507th PIR. Ultimately this objective was accomplished but it became one of the bloodiest fights of the invasion, with hundreds of casualties on both sides. The causeway was strewn with bodies and so much wrecked equipment it became largely impassable. The events of this June 9 assault are chronicled in a detailed U.S. Army action report found here:

cut and paste…. http://www.history.army.mil/documents/wwii/lafiere/325-LaF.htm

In one dramatic moment, soldiers recall Mathew Ridgway (commanding general of the 82nd Airborne) on the causeway attempting to attach a cable to a wrecked vehicle so that it could be dragged out of the way of his advancing forces, and doing this while under fire. Probably not a scene you’d see in these modern days.

Here is a photo of “Iron Mike” as he forever stands guard over the bridge at La Fiere Manor: 

 
 
 
 
 

 

Photo 9. Iron Mike.

[Update: Have started to do a little follow-up research on photo #8 above,with respect to the wrecked tanks shown on the causeway. There are actually four of them visible, one being in the foreground and only a small part of it can be seen, including its track which has come off.  More to come…]

June 6, 2010 update:

As mentioned above, in photo #8 there are four knocked out German tanks located on the causeway just west of the bridge.

Based on research done (by others), these vehicles can be identified as follows: The tanks seen on the left and right sides of photo#8 are R-35 Renault light tanks. The tank in the background is an H39 Hotchkiss light tank. In the forground (barely visible) is a Pzkpfw III medium tank. This identification is based on a few pieces of information, including this photo and other subsequent photographs taken of the wrecks as they were shoved out of the way to make way for the Allied advance once the causeway was secured. There are also after-action accounts by the battle participants.

These tanks would have all belonged to a training and replacement unit known as Panzer Ersatz und Ausbildungs Abteilung 100 (or PzAbt100). They were the only German armored unit stationed in the region at the time of the attack.

The photographer of photo#8 would be standing immediately in front (west) of the bridge and next to the Pzkpfw III. The two R35s are located in the road bend, and the Hotchkiss is sitting in the distance, just beyond the bend. (The bend is seen clearly from the bridge in my photo#2)

As the story goes, and summarized above, the paratroopers knocked out three tanks on the afternoon of June 6. Then why are there four destroyed tanks in front of the bridge? This is because one of them was destroyed in a second counterattack from the Germans that occurred later on June 7/8.

I will address the events that knocked out each of the four tanks, but this will be later, because I have some other things I need to do today.

– Bif

Update June 6, 2010:

OK. I have placed three of the tanks into the photo I took of the bridge. Using photo #8 as a guide, the PzIII is in front of the causeway bend, the R35s are within the bend, and the Hotchkiss is just beyond the bend and out of view. This will be helpful for addressing the fate of each tank, later.

In this location the PzIII is about 125 ft to 150ft from the bridge and about 200 feet from where I took the photo.

Photo 10. Graphic representation of approximate location of three of the wrecked tanks on the causeway.

The road is paved now and the surface (typical French backroad) is narrow. In 1944 it was wider and unpaved with thick brush on the banks of the causeway on both sides.

Update June 7, 2010:

Paratroopers who were involved in the defense of the bridge recall that they placed a number of anti-vehicle mines in the road about 50 feet in front of the bridge (and in front of the broken down German truck they had placed as a road block).. These were placed in plain sight of anyone approaching in daylight. The idea being that this would cause any approaching vehicles to pause at the sight of them, and perhaps long enough to allow the bazookas to get a good shot on target. This may have been good strategy.

As the tanks were coming into view in the causeway bend, it is reported that the lead tank stopped and the commander opened his turret hatch and climbed up to have a view toward the bridge. Perhaps he was just surveying the situation up ahead, or perhaps he could see that mines had been placed in the road. Either way, an American machine gun opened up and killed the tank commander. All hell broke loose after that.

Note to Readers: If the events of this particular battlefield interests you:

There has been some debate over whether there were three or four tanks wrecked on the causeway, and also whether one of them was in fact a Pz III. Some very good analysis and discussion on these topics, and some great photos of shot up tanks from Panzer Ersatz und Ausbildungs Abteilung 100 (Tank Replacement and Training Battalion 100), can be found HERE. Still more photos of German tank wrecks in the American Airborne drop zone vicinity can be found HERE. Check it out.

 

27 Replies to “The Bridge at La Fiere”

  1. I reminded you? I don’t think so.

    June 6 is a more important day than Memorial Day, Christmas, Labor Day, July 4, Thanksgiving, and November 11 combined… but only if you are a REAL American.

    You didn’t need any reminding. You are just saying that.

    I’m gonna stay silent this year (I hope). The paratroops of the 82nd and 101st would have already been landing at this time.

    No. 2010 for me in June is about the Korean War. The 60th Anniversary. I’m really scared we are gonna see another flashpoint on the peninsula. I hope not.

    What the fuck did Pelicans do that they deserved this?

  2. You note certain areas flooded. Were they flooded on orders from Rommel? Just curious. I’m also curious how the Krauts achieved this.

  3. Jesus, Bif, there is something wrong with you. You are not human. You are from some other planet. You are an alien that missed his calling.

    I just wanted to use that phrase- “missed your calling.” I hear that ten times a day. I wanted to spring it on someone else.

    I usually get told I should have been a doctor or an engineer or a lawyer. I’m pretty sure you are a lawyer, so I’ll say you should have been a war historian.

    “Question?” Is the 507 different from the 505?

    “Careful” [And even the best, like Max Hastings, do this] – never mark companies as subsets of regiments or brigades. A company is a subset of a battalion, which comes in between. I realize this is done for “military secrecy” but it is totally annoying and historically causes much confusion.

    Army Group-Army-Corps-Division-Brigade[Regiment]-Battalion-Company-Platoon-Squad-Fireteam.

    Some order should have been established 100 years ago. I insist upon it.

    “Point” – A Bazooka in 1944 was a 2.5 inch rocket. Not the best. The 3.5 inch version didn’t come into service until Korea.

  4. A Fire team is 2 or 3 guys. 2 M4s and one M249

    A Squad is 8 or12 guys. 3 Fire teams led by a sergeant(I can never spell that).

    A Platoon is 3 squads plus a weapons squad (rockets/light mortars/medium MG). 40 is the number I have. Spec Ops do it with 24.

    A company is 3 platoons. 120. Plus a weapons squad.

    A battalion is 3 or 4 companies. 600-800 including cooks and supply.

    A Brigade is 3 battalions. 2500. The Army uses “Brigade.” The US military fights with BCT “Brigade Combat Teams.” This is modern warfare. It is THE most lethal shit the world has ever seen.

    The Marines use RCT. Regimental Combat Team.

    The US Military is composed of 10 Army Divisions and I think 3 active duty Marine Divisions.

    The nominal paper strength of a US Division is 20,000. European and Russion Divisions I believe are at 10,000.

    20,000. Do the math. A lot of support troops.

    The following is off the top of my head(correct me if I’m I’m wrong)

    (1)-101st Airborne (Para)
    (2)-82nd Airborne (Heli-Drop)
    [172nd Airborne Regiment (Para)]

    (3) – 10th Mountain Division

    (3) 1st Infantry
    (4) 3rd Infantry

    (5) 1st Armored
    (6) 3rd Armored
    (7) ? 25th Infantry
    (8) ? 4th Infantry or Armored
    (9) ?
    (10) 1st Cavalry

    This is only —– —–.

    I don’t even know where the Rangers fall.

    Only the Israelis are better.

    I am expecting help from Bif and Bunn and AU and anybody else that knows anything.

    On Full Disclose. This is now a WikiLeaks site. Assange is my hero even if I think he’s a total nutcase.

    Turn on yur luvlight

    Just keep yur mouth shut

    In reality there is no such thing as a US Infantry Division.

    We are full-on armor assault. Only National Guard units on occupation duty unnersand what “infantry” means.

    US “Infantry” Divisons are actually armor heavy. I’m an expert on the numbers and vehicles, but I’ll leave that for some other time.

    Before I go to bed, I jus wanna say – Katya- I am so in love with you, I wanna spend ever minute of forever with you.

    and… and… and Nudge, I miss you …
    and… and AU, Holmes, Doom, EE, Bif, Dave (Especially Dave), MOU, Tipping, [Tipping!], and everybody else I forgot –

    I wish there was a day like mother’s day or father’s day but for friends and really cool people

    I jus wanna say thanks. You have no idea how much you are with me every minute and I am nothing without you

    June 7th. Let’s make it June 7th. Or the first Monday in June. It’ll be Friends of a douchebag day.

    No serious. You think I’m kidding.

    THANKS

  5. Thanks. I have provided a brief update at the end of the post.

    I am about to get down in the weeds on this. Unless you are interested please avoid this post at all cost because its going to get nerdy rediculous.

  6. I am in TOTAL non-control/
    My Life is a total fucking mess.

    The Floor is yours

    Just give me a break. Please

  7. I will gladly work with you on Normandy. You are the Master.

    I just need to kill some demons first. (Yes, I’m crazy). I just need to get some shit out of the way so I can deal with game 2 tonight.

    I just wish it would rain. RAIN MOTHERFUCKER!

  8. Thanks.

    Forgot about your question above re 505 and 507.

    Briefly, 82nd Airborne in Normandy was comprised of three paratroop infantry regiments (PIRs) – 505th, 507th and 508th that dropped into Ste Mere Eglise area June 6. As you know it didn’t go well and units got pretty scattered, mixed up, and intermingled. On about June 7/8 the 325th Glider Infantry Regiment (GIR) arrived. So there were four regiments in total. Plus various engineering, artillery and HQ and support units. All are under the command of 82nd Airborne. All totalled, as you say, this division may have been about 20,000 souls, plus or minus. The answer is somewhere in books on my shelf, but I am not at home, so I don’t know.

    I agree the brigade/regiment, etc, nomenclature for chain of command gets confusing, especially when trying to make sense of events in history. It has also changed quite a bit from WWII, such as the use of “regiment” back then (PIR and GIR), and of “brigade” now (BCT). My understanding is both refer to organizations of between 3,000 and 5,000 men, plus or minus, and depending on their purpose and conditions.

    When I get time (and I’m working on it) I will lay out the events of June 6-9 regarding matters of the fighting over this bridge/causeway and the breakout and victory that eventually occured at great cost. First I will address the four tanks in the photo. I’m thinking I will do this graphically as much as possible. First I have to do some reading.

  9. Looks interesting, Bif, I may have to make some time to actually read it.

    Wow, what a coincidence, today is June 6th!

  10. @Doom –

    Bif is good. If I was a chick I would want to marry him. If he was already married, I would still try to get in his pants. He’s like the Keith Richards/ JD Salinger of historical war writing.

    I find it odd that of the 6 billion people on this planet I happened to hook up with him.

    If you don’t read it, I will send ex-spetnaz hit squads out to kill you.

    I’m sorry. I’m fucking crazy after what just happened to me. I’ll tell the story in the morning. It involved a car, 90 mph, a police officer and drugs. This might be my best story ever. No… I’m not in jail. June 6th was a day of conflicted confusion for me. This was the perfect ending. I believe in Karma. I had visited the book store earlier to read “Hitch 22” before I visited my sister and her husband to watch the Celtics.

    I’m close with my brother-in-law. I tell him almost everything. But tonight I really went the whole 9 yards. I opened up like I have never done in my 40 years. In 10 minutes. I made him stop the game and put it on record.

    I was in pain. Not physical.Not emotionally or psychologically. Philosophically. I tried earlier with my father and then my mother. I fear I upset them more than anything they could have helped me with.

    Then I tried Katya. She worked. She actually did. I’m bad. real bad. I’m in the worst shape I have ever been. philosophically. Katya is the best person. The best human I have ever met. If I had known I was going to be given the opportunity to meet her and be with her and that she would think of me like she does, I would have concentrated more of my efforts on money.

    This was a gamble I took and I lost.

    I decided to pursue other things like the truth.

    Is she that great? Yeah.

    She’s better. She’s better at life than Vettel is at driving.

    I don’t care if I am her lover or her fuck-buddy or her husband or anything else. I just want her to answer my calls.

    When I haven’t talked to her in 2 days, I start to feel different in a bad way.

    She’s not human. She is from somewhere else.

    I’m through feeling ashamed or embarrassed or whatever.

    There is a story it happened om March 26th. I will tell it sometime. It is hugely embarrassing. And there is nobody to blame but me. I take full credit. As bad as it was and as aweful as I was, Katya was there in the morning. She is a Goddess.

    There is an obvious next step.

    Obama needs to put Steve Jobs and Warren Buffet in charge of stopping the Oil Spill.

    But Obama is a moron. I know this because I have paid a little bit of attention to him. He’s fucking stupid.

    You say: Oh, but Chris, If he’s so stupid, why is he president and you are not?

    Smarts has nothing to do with being president. See George Bush. His Father. Ronald Reagan.

    Being President is about winning a competition. The Election. You win statistically if you have more money.

    The real deal will come not when a nigger or a cunt is elected, but when a poor person is elected. When that happens I will kill myself. There will be nothing I could even conceive more important for the human race. So I would be useless in espousing an idea.

    I would just be using oxygen and using hydrocarbons. I suppose if Katya or one of my siblings wanted me to stick around, I would.

    But let’s get on with it already.

    3 -7.5 Oxycontins. 30-50 mgs Valium. It is soo tuff to tell. back in the day they use to come in like 10s and 20s

    2mgs are white now and 5mgs are dull orange.

    Believe me when I tell you this: I have issues that I am anxious about. Valium does nothing. Oxycontin is Heroin. Just Marketed slightly differently.

  11. Bif, that is indeed a fine piece. You could submit it as a magazine article–maybe you did?–where else did you post this? I appreciate your attention to detail and accuracy. As you may know, that is a goal of much of my professional work. Making a case with the evidence toward a favored hypothesis, rejecting competing ones on evidence to the contrary. You can never have too much supporting data and one single item can trip up the whole works like a stack of cards. Research, research, research, and there is nothing better than field research–gotta get those field relations correct.

    Anyway, congratulations, and you indeed missed your true calling in life as a war historian, IMHCFNO.

    There, told you I’d read it carefully.

  12. Doom thanks but what I wrote is just an assemblage of highlights from some of the popular books that cover this. Its nothing new.

    I wrote it around 2006 or 2007 and posted it on a blog that I co-edited at the time and has long since bit the dust.

    Before I posted it I did a little checking on the web and found some interesting work by others who have sought to fill in the holes of what went down there on June 6-9. If I can get some time I’d like to piece a few things together on this myself. There are archives, and others are digging through them and posting their results on the web, which is nice.

    I don’t want to be a war historian. My uncle was a soldier in Normandy (and later fought and was captured in Belgium). He told me a lot about where he was and what he did. This got me interested in checking out some of these places/events.

    BTW. Did you see my little update and newly added photo #10?

  13. Bif, Yes, I read the update, very nice Fig. 10 with the photoshop inlays.

    Most of the WWII fighters I knew fought in the Pacific.

    On a related note, on Saturday in Hilo the last two talks of the session of the meeting I was attending were by a senior professor from Hamburg, Germany. He had the perhaps not so original idea that the winters during the WWII years were anomalously cold. What was perhaps original was his ideas on the exact causes. He proposed that naval war activities (depth charges, exploding torpedos and sinking ships) disturbed the warm surface ocean and seas, thereby releasing their stored heat more readily. This heat loss, in the summer and fall months, then had the effect of cooling the region and causing the severe winters that followed.

    He showed data on the early naval war activities in the Baltic and North Seas, the the cold winters there in 39-42. In his second presentation, he showed the same effects, anomalously cold winters, after the naval war activities in the western Pacific, near Japan, in the winters of 44-45.

    Coincidence? I always thought that these colder winters were a result of more atmospheric particulates from all the burning cities and other areas, and they would have a blocking and cooling effect. The this fellow was making a strong case based upon the heat capacity of water and its moderating effects on terrestrial weather.

    I think the gist of it was how fragile the planet really is and how seemingly minor human impacts may not be so minor, after all.

  14. Bif, don’t you think it interesting that 65+ years later people are to some extent just getting around to going through various archives, attempting to piece together a more complete/coherent account, etc.?

    The closest I’ve been was a visit in 1996 to the Vimy Ridge Memorial. A lot of people will tell you that the site of this memorial is part of Canada. I suppose it effectively is, so long as they maintain the site. As always, the devil is in the details…

    http://www.treaty-accord.gc.ca/text-texte.asp?id=102661

    [A portion of APPENDIX III… clarifying, I suppose, ARTICLE II. Go Lakers!]

    “3. The conditions of the gift were in entire harmony with the views of the Canadian representatives. It was not considered advisable to bind the Canadian Government to definite undertakings. It was and is the intention of the Canadian Government to erect a memorial on Vimy Ridge; but account had to be taken of the fact that Governments may change their minds, or unforeseen circumstances may intervene. On the other hand account had to be taken of the fact that the gift was to be made for a special purpose and for no other. It seemed that the best and most effective form which the gift could take was the one adopted in the case of grants for military cemeteries, namely a grant to the Canadian Government gratuitously and in perpetuity, of the free use of the land for the purpose in question. Any possible future difficulty or complication was obviated in advance by the simple provision that should the Canadian Government change its plans the French Government would resume the free disposal of the land-excluding however the land on which the monument stood, should it be erected in the meantime.”

  15. p.s. — Good job, Bif! Looking forward to your eventual synthesis of (soon-to-be) revealed archival materials.

  16. “You could submit it as a magazine article”-Doom

    “assemblage of highlights from some of the popular books that cover this. Its nothing new.” -Bif

    Ehh. Whatever.

    Lemme say this. And I do not know what I’m talking about.

    @Doom – you should write more. I’ve been looking for articles about plastic and oil and toxins in plastic. For like 6 months. I was really hoping I would see your name.

    @Bif (but in response to Doom) — Bif is superior. Yes. He is History/Book quality. I agree with you. but he has certain deficiencies. His knowledge of the specs on weapons is lacking. This is why I recommend Hastings all the time to him.

    Hastings himself is actually pretty bad.

    For free. I swear to you. For free. No credit. I would edit all f Bif’s weapon’s stuff. Just to know I did it. He’s that good

    Bif is a Historian

    Bunn is a Novelist

    I actually know both these guys

    My Mother would never believe me

    MY Dad on the other hand could give a shit. He would give anything to meet Doom.

    Serious. He would kill to spend 20 minutes with Doom

  17. @military history-

    Fine. I clicked on your site.

    We are a very tight crew. You are welcome but you just gotta be regular with us.

    And we are the best. THE BEST

  18. Well, to be honest JR, to get into that toxic plastics, dioxins, crude oil research shit, i’d have to give up RT all-expenses-paid-for-by-foreign-country boondoggles to Asia and the Pacific Island nations, Korean whores, Fiji Bitter, hot curries and booze, cigars in general.

    Not-gonna-happen-sorry.

    How about I make up for it by developing a highly sensitive, in situ mass spectrometer that can detect that shit at the low parts per quadzillion (10E-12) level in deep ocean water? Get your orders in today.

    I’m very flattered that your Dad would like to meet me. Let’s make that happen sometime, OK?

  19. Oops, parts per quadzillion = 10E-15, or femtomolar level.

    10E-12 = parts per trillion. My bad.

  20. Let me check to see if there is a meeting in bean town that i can attend in the next year, or some excuse to visit WHOI in Cape Cod, with a stopover in Boston. If it’s in winter, you have to pick me up at the airport, OK? I do’t drive snow/ice.

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