Facial Recognition Software

My buddy and I have some concerns about Facebook, privacy, and the capabilities and uses of the lastest facial-recognition software. We are conducting some experiments.

See if you can attach a name to this person:

Extra points if you can place the location of the photo and any other information about the photo.

183 Replies to “Facebook”

  1. OK, I’m going to say that’s Chelsea Clinton after attending Mass in Boston with her hair tucked under her cap.

  2. Looks like you broke your nose but it has healed nicely

    You need more Vit D

    It also no longer legal to wear something which covers your face. I going to have to turn you in.

    But those goggles Nice! You should be on the runnways of new york with those.

  3. Roach, I think covering your face is illegal only in areas with 4G coverage. I do it all the time out here in 3G-land (aka Mass flyover) for winter exercise and there haven’t been any problems yet.

    It’s all part of that vast corporate conspiracy anyway.

    Vernor Vinge wrote some choice stuff about ubiquitous networked law enforcement in his book “A Deepness in the Sky”.

  4. Yeah, either way it will mess up your mind, so we have that going for us, which is nice.

    I’ve been torturing myself and others with this lately..

  5. i think this is from some russkie TV site. honestly, I’ve watched this video at least 10 times and can’t figure out what kind of car that is. sure is fast.

  6. Speaking of crowded rats. NYT reports on the tragedy off Italian coast…

    “People were trying to steal lifejackets from each other. We could only gets ones for children.”

    “It was complete panic. People were behaving like animals.”

    Well, we are animals, afterall.

    This gets to reason #142 why I won’t get on a cruise ship. If anything at all happens, 4000 people will suddenly go ape shit.

  7. now expand that logical thinking to living in a crowded city or suburban area under stress. the truly prepared will be living low density, off-grid or with no serious need of the grid or other service if provided, in areas where dialing 911 in an emergency is a cruel joke. you are your security against intruders. friends, neighbors or close kin are your health providers, first responders. now if a gang or small army shows up, you flee or just succomb to your bad luck, but maybe after having the pleasure of knocking off a few of them first.

  8. ricco, the feds are watching you and your friend masturbate each other right now. they have dick recognition software. that’s how m. jackson got taken down.

  9. roach, they are developing that weapon because others, like the Chinese and Russians, have figured ways to intercept long-arc ballastic missile strikes with defensive missiles like the USA Patriot, now an aging, “mature” technology.

  10. my two thoughts are: 1) very liberal editing of a classic stripper routine. i prefer her original version; 2) she desperately needs a dance partner. i volunteer.

  11. wow, the MSM really go way out of their way not to mention the most obvious reason for high oil prices, falling production due to reservoir depletion. i guess that would panic the global consumer herd, so they come up with all other possibilities than that one.

    maybe they’re right, and it’s all these “above ground” factors, like paying bribes to the oil-producer’s population to keep them content, except where that didn’t work, like in Libya, and then blaming the same high prices on when bribes didn’t work that made oil production drop.

    i wonder if Georgie’s little Iraq invasion may have just been cover to really comb over that country’s hidden oil resources, aka WMD. it most certainly was done, so i guess the results were disappointing, like everything else Georgie ever accomplished.


  12. I’m not surprised (and neither are you I’m sure). In our darkest day of facing the music I expect they won’t mention reservoir depletion either, rather it will be a grossly oversimplified and factually selective lamenting of the “above ground factors”, making up shit as necessary, and with generous blaming and persecution of the helpless, the rich, the [fill in any people you already hate], the [fill in any country you already hate], and the last politician (of the party you already hate) standing.

    The actual reasons why the party ended and nothing worked will never be known/understood. But we will bicker over these fine points while we gather and divide up the acorns and grubs, and until cruel circumstances and necessity give us other things to bitch about and hit each other with sticks.

  13. “…or does the radiation sickness kill us all first?”

    well, GB, let’s put it this way: you think we have problems maintaining our 250+ nuclear power facilities now in face of “who would have known?”* climatic and other natural hazards (earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, storms, occasional large volcanic eruptions) just wait until the governmental systems break down. once those are gone, all those nukes are ticking time bombs unless some heros go in and dismantle them while they can still can be approached safely. it’s a real concern, at least to me.

    * C. Rice, queen of the liars.

  14. http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=418625&c=1

    i guess that most, not all of course, radioactice particles have relatively short half lifes. then life just goes on, i guess. from what i understand, a lot of mammal type critters live in the chernobly hot zone. i’d bet that the human ones shy away from cameras, for various reasons.

    being on the eastern seaboard, and living within 100 miles of at least 3 active plants3 come to mind, but there may be more), meltdowns are something i think about also. kinda like living in an earthquake zone. you know it’s bound to happen, just not when.

  15. most of the long-lived fission products are gone in about 200 years. the rule of thumb is for 6 half-lives to elapse and >90% has decayed. for 90Sr and 137Cs, with thirty year half lives, that’s 30 x 6 = 180 years. any unburnt fuel scattered and lying around is another matter. for 235U, 238U, the half-lives are 700 and 4500 million years, respectively; for 239Pu, it’s about 24,000 years. those isotopes are effectively stable on the time scales of humans and their civilizations. the fuel isotopes are all alpha emitters, so not much external hazard, but breathing or injesting them will cause cancer, long-term.

    i’m not trying to show off, this radiation shit is among my professional expertise, and i’ll be happy to answer your questions.

  16. in the case of multiple meltdowns like at Fukushima, one gets to play “Oklo natural reactor” all over again, which was once only possible because the Earth was younger and there was still a lot of natural fissionable 235U around. now, thanks to artificial enrichment of 235U and some spare Pu in the melted MOX fuel, the corium can continue to fission, off and on, uncontrolled by humans, for as long as the Japanese can bear/hide it. the corium will of course replenish the fission products in this way, and because they are no longer in containment, those products can vent to the atmosphere or enter the groundwater and eventually the coastal ocean.

  17. yeah, my own down and dirty thoughts on the matter are something like: if you’re over, maybe, 50 miles from even the worst of “accident” imaginable, you’re pretty save. any large, whatever “large” might mean, bits of radioactive material will have dropped out of the amosphere, or sunk to the bottom of the cooling body, within such a radius. i think that the NRC makes similar assumptions. for whatever any of that is worth.

    “tiny” particles, again a very relative description, can, and will be dispersed, and ingested, and cause cancers and mutations, worldwide, on a random basis. in other words, some isolated ares might be heavily impacted, while other, even in close proximity to an incident, might be unaffected; or something like that.

  18. chernobly, for example: from what i understand, areas up to 200 miles to the north and east of the site have seen spikes in cancers and birth defects. however, areas 10 miles to the south and west haven’t been noticably affected. it just a mater of wich way the wind happens to be blowing. i think.

  19. from: A book review of:

    Munson, Richard. 2008. From Edison to Enron: The Business of Power and What It Means for the Future of Electricity

    “At the same time, the financial system is in the largest bubble ever and on the brink of collapse. Where will the investment come from?  How can such delicate, fragile systems operate as social unrest grows?  How will it even be maintained let alone increased in size and stability as declining resources make growth impossible in a finite world?”

    Read more: http://energyskeptic.com/2011/munson-edison-to-enron/

  20. “it just a mater of which way the wind happens to be blowing. i think.”

    correct. thanks to fallout from Fukushima our government (NRC) largely ignored or underplayed, expect to see a lot of cancers in future in Pacific NW area, from southern BC down to northern California, but centered on Seattle-Portland area and reaching inland to about Boise. hot particles, easily assimilated but not easily recognized.

    that’s a lot farther away than 50 miles, BYW.

  21. yeah, my (and the nrc’s, i guess) 50 mile “safety” zone is concerned with radition sources large enough to cause radiation poisoning and near term death, in my mind anyway. as shown by fukushima, tiny particles can, and will, be distributed world wide.

  22. who was it, anne coulter, who made the point that small amounts of radiation are good for you? you should try to keep that in mind as you dust off your morning guava fruit.

  23. regarding the Polygon region in Kazakhstan, it depends a lot on what actually happened there. A-bombs and H-bombs (with A-bomb triggers) scatter relatively small amounts of unburnt fuel and fission products extremely effectively. after the really short-lived nuclides decay out, the region might be pretty clean, especially compared with Chernobyl and Fukushima, where literally tons of fuel and fission products were blown all over the immediate vicinity. the Hiroshima and Nagasaki target cities are very clean places. most of their radiation victims were from prompt event radiation and short-lived fission products, not long-term exposure to environmental levels, which are barely above background there.

    as i said, it depends on what went on there. the Nevada test site and the Enewetak and Bikini test sites were heavily contaminated by various tests, such as Sclavola on Runit (Yvonne) island at Enewetak where they tested what would happen if A-bombs were accidentally dropped from planes by placing conventional charges on them and setting those off (to mimic impact with the ground). Sclavola went partially nuclear and scattered Pu all over the island and lagoon floor. even after the big clean-up in the 1980s, that place is dangerous to explore, IMHO.

  24. Thanks Dave for the Irina K links. Egads. Flexibility is more like something I’m chasing than something I expect to achieve, but it’s fun to try anyway.

    One of my guy friends succeeded in getting me to try something wholly different and unexpected: contra dancing. It was great fun but so different from the dance I’ve done so far that I messed up a great many things – typical newbie behavior. But I got to do a whole lot of floor stretch moves during the band intermission (it didn’t seem inappropriate there, go figure) and met a bunch of cool people, so that was fun too. Doing one of those 15-20 minute dances is quite the workout.

  25. I see that Howe’s Cave (Howe’s Caverns) is fingered as the epicenter of WNS. That was one of the first places I went on a field trip to in elementary school in the 60’s. Can’t remember much at all about it. Bat hibernation areas are more often off limits now.

  26. attitudes come and attitudes go. i recall wanting to use an isotope thermoelectric generator as a remote power source for a long-term science deployment in the Pacific. i knew the US military (navy) used them for some of their long-term monitoring posts and there used to be a company that made them for the navy. many were stored at Pt Magoo base in Calif., so the possibility was there for free use of one if done for science. they used Sr-90. the NASA folks get to use even moron non-PC Pu-239 thermoelectric generators in space probes where solar panels just won’t work, like outer solar planets exploration.

    so i was told by my immediate supervisor at that time that there was “no way” i would be allowed to use such a non-PC power source for my science project. even if well sealed, it might leak and cause a Sr-90 pollution source that would be hard to live down, think of the liability, insurance, tenure risk, etc., etc.

    now, the japanese continuously pour millions of curies of Sr-90 into the northwest Pacific and it’s hardly even a news item, except on a few sites on the internet.

  27. The ground is frozen and its snowing, but I will start some seeds today. This is going to be the best year ever for growing stuff. I can’t wait for spring. Time for more coffee…(gardeners are optimistic by nature).

  28. eh, what do you expect when a bunch of clever monkeys start playing with fire? of course they’re going to burn down the forest they live in.

  29. i’m busy inserting seeds in balls of shit for later dispersal. i leave them to dry on the window sills around the house. this pisses off jhoon rhee.

  30. Arnie Gunderson = true american hero*

    Obummer = juda’s goat

    Ron Paul = maybe OK? (the milacorptocracy will assassinate him, if elected and he proves not to be another juda’s goat.)

    *still alive because TPTB believe few listen to him (correct assumption). most true american heros have been assassinated since about 1960. Jimmy Carter may be an exception, but he was limited to one term. (maybe they missed with the ‘manchurian candidate’ killer rabbit? surreal.)

  31. Ron Paul is a joke and a racist prick. With such a large ‘minority population’ if he some how was elected there would be race wars.

  32. what’s the evidence for the racist part?

    eventually we’re going to have class wars, but i’m sure someone among TPTB will try to claim they are race wars. a technicality, IMHO. at that point, there will be no moron USA as we knew it.

  33. Spoke at a John Birch Socity Meeting. Hangs out with the guy who runs stormfront. Only one to vote against the non binding cost free congressional statement in favor of the civil rights bill and all which it has accomplished. You could even put his stance on woman’s rights in this catagory too if you want. There are other things as well.

    His worse qualitys though are simmingly blind eye to where oil comes from. Magical lamp? His other, polution being a state problem.The dead zone at the mouth of the Mississippi is all the wicked people of New Orleans fault.

  34. The thing that is great about America is the geography: the land, the mountains, rivers, forests, coastal wetlands, plains. Just Yellowstone Park alone is worth about a couple of European nations. Our presidential candidates are not especially great, although Newt is pretty large.

  35. i don’t know, europen climate and geography are similar to much of north america. it’s just much more densly populated, i believe. the pols are absolutely equivalent, mediocre and/or venal. these qualities are absolute requirements for higher office within civilized (densly populated) cultures. this is fact, not opinion.

  36. Doom, no. That Ol’ Remus is a much better writer. And Maher is a tool.

    Roach – it’s not about the man, it’s about an idea – liberty. Put some thought into that.

    In any event, Americans will get what they deserve in November.

  37. Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
    H. L. Mencken

  38. “Don’t let it end like this. Tell them I said something.”

    – last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)

  39. mick_richfield

    I’m trying to remember why we ever thought that representative democracy was a good idea, rather than direct democracy. I’m pretty sure it was because:

    1. we didn’t have the internet, and

    2. it makes the political process easier to influence with money.

    “Our” representatives are trying to do away with the internet before it does away with them.



    Fri, 01/20/2012 – 12:56 | 2081576 Uncle Remus

    Direct democracy – are you kidding me? Not a day goes by on ZH that a poster or commenter doesn’t lament the sad state of the rank and file citizen of this clusterfuck we call a republic. And you want to have the back-of-the-short-bus semi-comatose Gong-show fails vote on anything other than America’s Next Top Dancing Idol Survivor?

    Jesus H. Christ man – are you daft?

  40. New Google Use Policy, effective 1 March 2012:

    “Protecting your privacy hasn’t changed

    Our goal is to provide you with as much transparency and choice as possible, through products like Google Dashboard and Ads Preferences Manager, alongside other tools. Our privacy principles remain unchanged. And we’ll never sell your personal information or share it without your permission (other than rare circumstances like valid legal requests).”

    (other than rare circumstances like valid legal requests).

    Hummm…today that can mean sharing with all sorts of agencies that claim to have “valid legal requests”. Big Bro, watching you.

  41. Doom, now you’re with the program!

    That’s why I got the iPhone 4S recently – it’s got to be the most Big Brother compliant mobile device on the market. It is designed from the ground up to be as despot-friendly as possible when it comes to intrusive, paranoid governments wanting to spy on their citizens in every possible way.

    Like Rove and Cheney said .. if you’re not doing anything wrong then you’ve got nothing to fear from intense surveillance.

  42. i’m going to be in ithaca for a couple of days in march. so if nothing else, i’ll swing by and say hello then.

  43. Obama’s anecdote and knee slapper about spilled milk during the SOTU was kind of creepy, what with the ensuing nervous laughter in the chambers. Obama: “I’m confident a farmer can contain a milk spill without a federal agency looking over his shoulder.” Struck me as metaphoric code for continued blind eye in the financial sector, or, you know… *wink-wink*… what goes on in the milking parlor and those government cheese warehouses.

    BTW Dave, I really like Anja Vister of Flunk. Great music vid.

  44. GB – still have spinach, broccoli and Swiss chard in the ground although the latter took a bit of a hit. Got seeds for tomatoes, peppers and so on in the starter.

    We don’t get much snow even in a normal winter and it has been mild and dry this year.

  45. The Future of Warfare

    “It’s an autonomous aircraft/drone that has a full weapons bay (4,500 lbs). Say that word again: autonomous. That’s the breakthrough feature. This also means:

    It can make its own “kill decision.” Again and again and again. That decision is going to get better and better and cheaper and cheaper (Moore’s law has made insect level intelligence available for pennies, rat intelligence is next).”


  46. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable. Sustainable…


  47. http://www.theonion.com/articles/scientists-look-onethird-of-the-human-race-has-to,27166/

    WASHINGTON—Saying there’s no way around it at this point, a coalition of scientists announced Thursday that one-third of the world population must die to prevent wide-scale depletion of the planet’s resources—and that humankind needs to figure out immediately how it wants to go about killing off more than 2 billion members of its species.

    Representing multiple fields of study, including ecology, agriculture,
    biology, and economics, the researchers told reporters that facts are
    facts: Humanity has far exceeded its sustainable population size, so either one in three humans can choose how they want to die themselves, or there can be some sort of government-mandated liquidation program—but either way, people have to start dying.

    And soon, the scientists confirmed.

    “I’m just going to level with you—the earth’s carrying capacity will no
    longer be able to keep up with population growth, and civilization will end
    unless large swaths of human beings are killed, so the question is: How do we want to do this?” Cambridge University ecologist Dr. Edwin Peters said. “Do we want to give everyone a number and implement a death lottery system? Incinerate the nation’s children? Kill off an entire race of people? Give everyone a shotgun and let them sort it out themselves?”

    “Completely up to you,” he added, explaining he and his colleagues were
    “open to whatever.” “Unfortunately, we are well past the point of
    controlling overpopulation through education, birth control, and the
    empowerment of women. In fact, we should probably kill 300 million women right off the bat.”

    Because the world’s population may double by the end of the century, an
    outcome that would lead to a considerable decrease in the availability of
    food, land, and water, researchers said that, bottom line, it would be
    helpful if a lot of people chose to die willingly, the advantage being that
    these volunteers could decide for themselves whether they wished to die
    slowly, quickly, painfully, or peacefully.

    Additionally, the scientists noted that in order to stop the destruction of
    global environmental systems in heavily populated regions, there’s no
    avoiding the reality that half the world’s progeny will have to be

    “The longer we wait, the higher the number of people who will have to die, so we might as well just get it over with,” said Dr. Chelsea Klepper, head of agricultural studies at Purdue Univer­sity, and the leading proponent of a worldwide death day in which 2.3 billion people would kill themselves en masse at the exact same time. “At this point, it’s merely a question of coordination. If we can get the populations of New York City, Los Angeles, Beijing, India, Europe, and Latin America to voluntarily off themselves at 6 p.m. EST on June 1, we can kill the people that need to be killed and the planet can finally start renewing its resources.”

    Thus far, humanity has been presented with a great variety of death
    options, among them, poisoning the world’s water supply with cadmium,
    picking one person per household to be killed in the privacy of his or her
    home, mass beheadings, and gathering 2.3 billion people all in one place
    and obliterating them with a single hydrogen bomb.

    Sources confirmed that if a death solution is not in place by Mar. 31, the
    U.N., in the interest of preserving the human race, will mobilize its
    peacekeeping forces and gun down as many people as necessary.

    “I don’t care how it happens, but a ton of Africans have to go, because by
    2025, there’s no way that continent will be able to feed itself,” said Dr.
    Henry Craig of the Population Research Institute. “And by my estimation,
    three babies have to die for every septuagenarian, because their longer
    life expectancy means babies have the potential to release far more
    greenhouse gases going forward.”

    While the majority of the world’s populace reportedly understands this is
    the only option left to save civilization, not all members of the human
    race are eager to die.

    “I personally would rather live, but taking the long view, I can see how
    ensuring the survival of humanity is best,” said Norwich, CT resident and
    father of three Jason Atkins. “I guess if we were to do it over again, it
    would make sense to do a better job conserving the earth’s finite

    “Hopefully, the people who remain on the planet will use the mass slaughter of their friends and loved ones as an incentive to be more responsible going forward,” he added.

  48. “…I can see how ensuring the survival of humanity is best,” said Norwich, CT resident….”

    that’s only thing that dosen’t make any sense.

  49. i wonder how much longer we’ll have to wait until the code words “Soylent Green” will go from shocking and revolting to maybe a good idea, after all.

  50. The prospects for a gigantic global Holodomor in the next couple decades isn’t at all out of the question though IMO. To what degree it would be engineered or orchestrated, who knows, but I don’t think there will be much control of it. Things will run their course, and the sories of it will die with the people.

  51. usually in history it’s drought => crop failures => starvation => die-offs. also throw in some pestilence for good measure.

    today, it’s likely to be fossil fuel scarcity => crop failures => starvation => die-offs. also throw in some pestilence for good measure.

    droughts are around, too, but we have used fossil fuels to avert their worst effects, e.g., green lawns in Phoenix, AZ.

    wars, unless global nuclear, just don’t do it.

  52. “Sustainable” should by international law, always be modified as more or less, never to stand alone as a noun or object of a sentence, IMHO.

    where’s that babbling linguist nut Noam Chomsky when we really need him?

  53. i see young pregnant women and young mothers out about with their cute babies in tow and i just shake my head and wonder if they even think about the future beyond say, next Tuesday’s hair appointment or hubby’s next payday.

  54. “Chaco Phenomenon
    Around A.D. 1000 the Chaco Anasazi advanced well beyond those in other regions in terms of numbers, the ability to capture water runoff, and in the size and complexity of its network of outlier villages.”

    we visited the site about 8 or so years ago. it was a major regional religious center and trading hub with lots of stone rooms used for storage of corn (maze), skins, etc. one of the stories told there was of poor water planning which led to crop failures via erosion. the “evidence” was steep canyons cut into the broad Chaco valley plain. i don’t believe it. they had a complex culture and that place was like a central storage & grain exchange to fight the worst effects of drought.

    their trust horizon receded and another complex culture bit the dust.

    the steep canyons were likely cut later. that should be a datable and thus provable hypothesis.

  55. Doom, complex cultures are practically designed to self-destruct. It seems only nature makes complex things and systems that are buffered and self-stabilizing and can last a long time. We’re just poor students of deep design, is all.

  56. Doom, sorry, I’ve been letting the weeds grow at FTA. Literally haven’t looked at it in awhile. Am trying to get back to the roots of my writing passion and they lie elsewhere. Thinking about starting up another blog, but it would be an anonymous read-only thing where I’m trying to work through some issues via the time-honored method of yakking about them to the internet-in-general.

    Yeesh, that’s quite the account of the revolution. Messy.

  57. The part that confuses me about that account is its depiction of how the mobs traveled about beseiging the prisons and then executing most of the prisoners.

    What, in our era, would be required to get random people to do the same? Fill the prisons with Goldman Sachs executives, then make a point of raising taxes outrageously to cover the prisoners’ cable TV costs? Having the MSM go on a propaganda blitz about how the people stuck behind bars, and not the people in power, are the ones responsible for the nation’s financial troubles?

    Some part of that story is missing.

  58. yup, not a pretty sight when the protests move into mob rule mode. i wonder if the #OWS movement will evolve that way, eventually. looks like the action in Oakland is going confrontational, fast.

    JHK writes about Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Damon and other wall street bankster barons getting similar treatment to 1792 French Royalty. it may seem like hyperbole to many, but i think he really means it. “…on granite counter tops in the Hamptons”, etc.

    ah well, the pendulum, or is it the broad axe?, swings.

  59. Nudge, in partial answer to your questions, how about having one Goldman Sachs puppet running against another one for POTUS?

    or, why bother to vote with a ballot when those molotov cocktails and pikes are such moron fun?

  60. No doubt those French aristos also believed themselves to be Masters of the Universe, right up until they lost everything from the neck down. Ours seem little different. Whether they’re destined for the same end remains to be seen, but at least their hubris and contempt-for-the-rest is in plain sight.

  61. Of coarse the polititins dont see it but this is a good thing. So Japan can not pay its forign debt. They have enouph of a military and have preserved most of their forest. I dont see how the debt is a real problem.

  62. i predict Japan’s population will fall a lot moron than 30% by 2060. those death rates are optimistic because they don’t include the effects of oil scarcity. and their nice forests will be stripped for firewood.

  63. Its good that the Japanese landowners are peaceful people and will graciously allow their neighbors and/or strangers to freely cut firewood and deplete their private forests like that.

  64. hey, i just noticed a tiny midget nazi solider in JR’s banner photo! he’s standing next to the guy on the far left, and he’s wearing this cute little uniform complete with tiny helmut and gun.

  65. GB, i’m sure the first few hundred that try to get free firewood will have their heads handed to them for their troubles. but, in the end, it will be like trying to stop the ivory poachers and the place will begin to look like Haiti, for awhile. a similar fate may await the WMBH survivors in north america.

  66. Given oil scarcity, I still think the typical city person will find it a daunting task to actually get to the forest, expertly render desired trees into firewood with the family chain saw or axe (against the wishes of the landowner’s hired men), and somehow transport the heavy green wood safely back to wherever he/she now calls home. “Honey, I’m home with the firewood!”

  67. Firewood matters little when you’ve got nothing to burn it in. Your typical dwelling these days isn’t equipped to burn wood safely. And outdoor bonfires aren’t the most resource-efficient way to stay warm.

    But the forests will get axed anyway, it happens every time.

    Back to my non-doomish pursuits ..

  68. Not sure why, but the one thing about the heading picture that always jumps out at me is the way the soldier on the far left has got absolutely no ass. Seriously, what happened? Did it get amputated during a boot-camp exercise or what?

  69. “Given oil scarcity, I still think the typical city person will find it a daunting task to actually get to the forest…”

    The city folk will initially do like they did in the Pulitzer Prize winning book “Angela’s Ashes”. They’ll start burning the wood furniture and then take a few “extra” studs from the walls. Not too sure how smart that is, but that’s what they’ll do in a pinch. This assumes a fireplace, like in old-time Ireland.

    Maybe hit the neighbor’s house when they’re off working or scavenging in other parts of the city or nearby countryside.

    Those without a fireplace not living in nice places like Hawaii will be in deep kimchee without a pair of chopsticks. It’s currently 77F, 52% relative humidity, with cool breezes from the NE trades.

  70. “Cutting trees into firewood with hand saws, axes, or machete?”

    anything they can reasonably use. forget the chain saws (no gas) so my guess is it will be back to axes and buck saws, paul bunyan style.

    romantic, no?

  71. Instead of heating a whole street of McMansions with wood, probably cram a lot of people into one house where one small fire will make the entire Donner Party (er… I mean neighbors) warm while they snack on the last of the potato peels.

  72. fuckers look like they want to invade iran now, lookin’ for moron WMD. it’s really disgusting to see the USA turn into a Nazi Germany Fascist Asshole Evil Empire, complete with a jive-talking hostess cupcake for our Commander in Chief, winner of a nobel peace prize (special ironic edition, along with Hitler, Stalin, Musolini, Yamamoto, etc.).

    i guess DHS = German SS. “let me see if your papers are in order…”

  73. huh, my nieghbors might, at some point, think that they’re going to cut down and burn my trees. fuck them.

  74. so this 48-year old rich billionaire 1% type guy decides to adopt his 42-year old girlfriend. my guess is this is some way to preserve his wealth in case they split up. since he’s her legal guardian, she can’t sue him for half of everything he owns, etc. i guess this is a smart move, apparently all legal eagle. only problem is he isn’t supposed to be having physical relations with his not so junior “daughter”.

    wow, for a minute there it took my feeble mind right off peak oil Ponzi financial bubble collapse, presidential selections, and new pending ‘terror’ wars in the middle east


  75. Doom, I’d say Ms Huthins really scored that time – she get to enjoy the benefits of that kind of money without being involved in that messy wealth-creation process.

    In our extended family, one of my sisters has the distinction of scoring the best .. as of age 30something she’ll never have to work again if she doesn’t want to.

    Err, for adults to become wards of other adults, don’t they first need to be declared legally incapable of managing their own affairs, usually for medical reasons?

  76. body paint, tattoos, piercings, cool tunes, grog, dancing bare-breasted women and not a peak oil nor ponzi bubble collapse worry in the world. our kinda place, dave and GB:

  77. Time to get your penis gourd out, Doom… especially if you want to join in the sing sing. A dear friend’s sister and hubbie lived in PNG in the ’90s and she visited them a couple of times. Loved it but reported that the Chinese, SE Asians were raping the country for its abundant natural resources and chaos was ensuing. Her sister and spouse left for the states in 2000 and got out in the nick of time.

  78. not sure doom’ those bare breasted women look kinda bear breasted to me. i think that thier pussies and assholes might taste a little funny. not sure.

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