Francois Hollande, Socialist Party candidate

January 2013

9 questions about Mali you were too embarrassed to ask

Hollande: Algeria Hostage Blowback Shows Mali Invasion Justified

As French troops press attack in Mali, rebels digging in

France has stepped up its involvement every day, after launching the first air raids last Friday in an effort to stop the rebels’ advance. On Thursday, it increased its troop strength to 1,400, said French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian.

‘‘The actions of French forces, be it air forces or ground forces, are ongoing,’’ said Le Drian in Paris.

After a meeting in Brussels of European Union foreign ministers,Mali’s foreign minister, Tieman Hubert Coulibaly, said it was necessary to mobilize ‘‘the entire international community’’ to help Mali and the region.

‘‘What is happening in Mali is a global threat,’’ Coulibaly said at a press conference.

Many US Officials Dispute Mali Militants Pose Any Threat
by John Glaser
January 17, 2013

December 2012


86 Replies to “Mali”

  1. one of my brothers spent some time in africa. he said that it was a real shithole. i’ve never been there. so i have no real opinion.

  2. Gail the Actuary to The Rescue:

    “The point of climate change, ecosystem collapse and the rapid extinction of species is that they are not just data points but deeply emotional issues. The actuarial profession would do well to learn how to integrate this into their work, for that, perhaps, will help them to have the courage to step forward and become part of the solution rather than the problem.”

    shall i laugh or cry, that is the question…

  3. The actuarial profession might do better to learn some other skills like, I don’t know, foraging for food or something.

  4. holding your tongue wrong fucks with IE dave.

    actuarial profession = fancy name for useless eater

  5. yes, but they’ve done well for themselves as wizard assistants. perhaps they can use some of those ill gotten gains to buy gardening tools, while supplies last. what are the best brands?

  6. If you need a hoe, you go down to the hardware store and buy a hoe (not a ‘ho’). There’s no shortage.

  7. they’ll be no shortage of Ho’s, either. it’s gonna get interesting when the women’s “revolution” meets peak resources and economic decline. just sayin.

  8. it’s also gonna get interesting when all these college students presently enrolled in record numbers find there are no high-paying, white-collar jobs waiting for them upon graduation. they’ll wonder for awhile if it was really worth the college loan debt load they’ve taken on to pay the hiked tuition costs, etc., then, they’ll probably get angry.

    hope i’m retired and safely tucked away from the ivory tower when they decide to riot.

  9. That was made sense when college education was reasonable in cost (or free) and you didn’t have to go deep in debt to pay for it. Hard to believe there even was such a time.

  10. “The global warming problem with its ever more dire predictions will be with us for a long time. The complexity of weather patterns makes prediction of specific drought, floods, unusual storms, or temperature extremes impossible to predict. What we can say is that the frequency of one or another of these events seems to be increasing and hardly a year goes by now without some very expensive climate aberration hitting some place or another. The costs of these unusual weather related events is already eroding away much of the world’s economy and can only get worse.”

    —Tom Whipple

    maybe that’s how the beginning of the end begins. like that old futuristic movie “THX-1138”, all humans of modern civilization have a price assigned, as a membership cost. once your account gets too low, you and your family, neighbors, friends, towns, surrounding counties are forced to leave the umbrella of modern civilization and fend for yourselves. mother nature can’t afford to have you around any longer. you cost too much, even with the global civilization discount.

  11. yeah, school pretty much sucks. i’ve never much liked school. but i’ve always tried to learn new stuff. i guess.

    after saying that, paradoxically, it turns out that i’ve just recently enrolled in a horticulture program at a local community college. i could probably learn a lot of that stuff on my own, but it’s nice to cut out some of the learning curve sometimes. that has a cost and a value. i guess.

  12. dave, there are those that indeed want to learn for the sake of learning. historically, most cannot afford the time to do so, at least formally. i used to have summer jobs working in heavy industry. besides the danger (another story) it was hot, hard work and at the end of the day, all i wanted was a hot shower to clean up, a meal and some relaxation/sleep. that leaves precious little time for learning new stuff, so there’s an economic/exhaustion/time trap for learning for many if not most.

    in the past, higher education was for the rich and the selected few that showed promise and were supported by them. the few institutions were supported by the rich, as well. i think we are going to rapidly return to that mode, unless all civilization is cut short by complete collapse.

    no moron higgs boson discoveries, can’t afford it, sorry.

  13. yes, of course, there is absolutely nothing worse than having to work for a living. it kills mind body and soul.

  14. the irony is that the vast majority want nothing more in life than to be counted among the living dead. they want a “job”. they seem to see no way past that need; a viewpoint that i can understand, but not relate to.

  15. i think it was aristotle who said something like: “a life of liesure is the life worth living”. i agree with that sentiment wholeheartedly.

  16. aristotle, bukowski, these were wise men.

    “Boring damned people. All over the earth. Propagating more boring damned people. What a horror show. The earth swarmed with them.”

    ~ Charles Bukowski, Pulp

  17. i like shotguns. but those duck guns are too long and unwieldy, i think.

    yes, the earth is a horror show. a bunch of fuck retards who know nothing but to eat breath shit and fuck. they’ll do anything to keep to doing that, and then blather about how it’s in thier “rights”, or some other such stupid shit.

    thier exticntion is the best thing that could ever happen. i’d say.

  18. The video proved nothing. It just redefined “dangerous” as a way to rationalize assault rifles are OK. He needs them to be OK because its how he makes his living, selling people assault rifles and high capacity “sporting” clips.

    Guy would probably sell “sporting” phosphorous hand grenades if he could get away with it.

  19. Most people in the Sahel hate AQIM and their radical cousins, Ansar Dine and the others. Those bullies deserve a pounding. No complaints from me.

    However, we should only drop stuff on them that says “Made in China”. Just to keep it clean.

  20. Bif, I thought it was funny because the demo actually proved the 10-fold efficiency of a shotgun over an assault rifle in a defense scenario. One out of five of the shotgun patterns missed, so what. Compare 30+ seconds response with 3+ seconds for the shotgun.

    The guy clearly has an agenda, and a business to protect.

  21. “For the cost of a single B-2 bomber or a tiny fraction of the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) bank bailout, we could invest in preventative measures to avert what might well become the end of life as we know it. There is no way to protect against all possible effects from an extreme GMD or an EMP attack, but we could implement measures to protect against the worst effects. Since 2008, Congress has narrowly failed to pass legislation that would implement at least some of the EMP Commission’s recommendations.”

    Four Hundred Chernobyls: Solar Flares, Electromagnetic Pulses and Nuclear Armageddon

    Not to mention that those nuke plants are obvious targets to a pissed-off enemy with ballistic missile capability. Achieve what the Romans only dreamed of: incapacitate the enemy for eons by poisoning his land.

  22. You worry too much. Embrace the rush of enhanced creativity that can flow from failed art. Swill a couple cocktails, and open your mind to global dynamic resilience. Everywhere you go there’s the faint suggestion of jasmine and lilac.

    The cavalry is on the way with some new ideas and enabling terminology.

  23. “Normally, visitors to this ski resort seek nothing more dynamic than pumping knee-deep powder snow or perhaps enjoying a knees-up in one of Davos’s nightclubs.”

    dave and i would like to order a pair of “knees-ups”, please. extra hot.

  24. For most of us, what happens in our own little bailiwick is what we need to be concerned with…the old ” think global, act local”.

  25. it’s interesting to read some of the recent comments on America2.0 list about the blog web sites of Jim Kunstler, JM Greer, Charles Huges Smith and Chris Martenson, Automatic Earth, etc. the major criticism is no alternative views are presented, and are in fact suppressed. to me, beyond or perhaps part of this criticism for JHK are the blinders he has had on and continues to wear regarding the 9-11 conspiracy and his zionestic support of Isreal.

    after the very successful interview of Guy McPherson, Jay wants to iterview others with views of the future on his list, and next up appears to be JMG (The Archdruid). there has been some criticism of Greer in advance, including from moi, regarding his credibility. most promise to be nice, though.

  26. yeah, i’m not a huge fan of greer’s historical mummery. the idea that the ’70’s “back to the land” movement can provide a model for survival through an ecological bottleneck seems kind of silly. the idea that the historical record of previous civilzations can provide insight into the collapse of industrialism seems trivial. I can hear him now as various nuclear reactors meltdown: “oh yes, just like the fall of rome.” or something like that.

    i think it was teddy r. who said something like: history is bunk.

    somebody else said something like: the only thing that you can learn from history, is that you can’t learn anything from history.

  27. it’s pretty obvious that TPTB (whomever they are) dearly want to run the BAU as long as possible. this is why we are on a plateau of oil and gas production, although it keeps costing moron to produce (extract) the stuff. this is also why the feds keep having to borrow, print and spend, with all the fiscal kabuki theater in congress and the while house (to keep the chinese from panicking over the dollar, i guess).

    the longer we put it all off, the bigger and steeper the crash. greer wants a different outcome, moron in line with his sustainable, permaculture, back-to-the-land, buy my books and read my blog crowd.

    there is a legitimate concern that interviewing him is a complete waste of time.

  28. I find some of Greer’s ideas thought-provoking. I’m not inclined to read his writings very often, however, due to his voluminous writing style. I’m spoiled. We have a way of getting to the point quickly here at ZK.

  29. my bet is JMG won’t appear because he knows that folks on Jay’s lists are sharp and will gun him down fast, metaphorically speaking.

    ZK lets my inner asshole shine forth. this gets me in trouble on tighty moderated lists like Jay’s. he censored my comment made earlier today. i deserved it.

    if anyone is interested, i can post it here in the free speech, politically incorrect high tolerance ZK zone.

    yes, we get to the point fast over here.

  30. “Aaron is seen as a hero. He spent a lot of time working to make the Internet a more open place,” Soghoian said. “We lost a really important person who changed the Internet in a positive way, and we all lose out by his departure.”

    from the comments to the above, here’s a great summary comment concerning this tradegy:

    cc423 • 11 days ago
    Gee. Just think if the Feds went after the criminal bankers who caused the collapse of our economy with this much zeal. But they will not. Only certain crimes are prosecuted in this country. And if you are on Wall St. you get away with whatever you want.

    fucking feds and their evil, corrupt masters. here’s your story JR, it’s not out in Mali. empires fall from internal corruption. the USA is obviously well on its way, and this is the main path—greed, corruption, injustice, tyranny.

  31. Doom,
    I’ve got a book called “The world without us”.
    Interesting how quickly shit falls to pieces. Bridges don’t last a year; as soon as detritus isn’t cleaned out of expansion joints, the bridge cracks next summer. New York starts to flood in 48 hours once groundwater pumps stop.
    Fires spread quickly once plastic gas pipes fracture and backburn the fire to another site. A good read though.

  32. Yarra, I also have that book, but only started reading it, then got distracted by something else. Public TV here aired a NOVA (?) program of the same title, probably based on the book, or vice versa, a few years ago. It was one of the first “we’re sooooo screwed” books/programs.

    Per the book/program, cockroaches and cows won’t do so well without us, but wolves, coyotes and deer do just fine without us, at least in North America. Wonder what does well/not so well down under. My guess is any competing carnivore will prosper without us.

  33. great summary post by Steve from Virginia on TOD:

    steve from Virginia on January 25, 2013 – 8:57pm

    The whole country is scared. Not on the outside, not everyone … but in private, people know this is the end of ‘something’, the end of how we do business.

    People turn on the TV and distract themselves: they don’t like the conclusion they arrive at after some time figuring out what the endless Boss-man lies really mean …

    “If I am correct, and I realize that my crystal ball is no better than yours, the more expensive “car culture option” may be supplanted to a large degree by trains, light rail, and other public transport options as well as a buildout of more walkable transit oriented development.”—dcoyne78

    The future of the United States has already arrived in places like Detroit … Gary … Baltimore … Philadelphia … Las Vegas … as well as in other parts of the world: Syria, Somalia and Greece. What is underway is breakdown and everyone understands what it means … nobody wants to ‘go there’ … the bosses don’t have the nerve to tell people the truth and they don’t have the tools the people need to change because they have never had do … they don’t know how.

    There aren’t going to be any trains or light rail or public transport options … there won’t be a buildout of walkable developments. Nothing can be like now any more. People cannot afford these things, every penny was long ago borrowed and squandered on the oil the cars the waste the freeways the tract houses the stuff the vacations the flat screens and igadgets. Whatever financial slack might have been in the system 20 years ago has been siphoned off and sent to China … where the locals are squandering it as fast as 1.2 billion can on the oil the cars the waste the freeways and thousands upon thousands of gigantic empty buildings that hulk over the countryside like gigantic tombstones!

    What’s coming is extreme poverty and deprivation, affording something to eat is going to really matter. This is the reason people are terrified, it’s a very good reason, indeed! In the stillness of the night when the distracting noises are muffled … minds and hearts know what’s coming and it can’t be negotiated- or reasoned with.

    First to go in a crisis is convenience, whatever forms it might take.

  34. Doom, sounds like you’re getting a new LNG import terminal in Hawaii, or as soon as they figure out how to regulate it. (party time, bro).

  35. Bif, i know Tesoro is closing their refinery here, leaving only Chevron to make jet fuel from Indonesian crude. perhaps that’s the new site of an LNG terminal? glad it’s way over there to tne west, and we live way over here to the east.

  36. my job has certain perks. one of them is travel to meetings in exotic places. this year on the menu is cancun, mexico, bergen, norway, budapest, hungary, and some island off greece, near athens. i think i’ll pass on cancun (too mayan doomy), bergen (too cold, even in june), and focus on the greece and hungary sites, later in the year.

  37. I’m about done reading Philip Rock’s The Passing Bells, originally published in the late 1970s and recently reissued last month, seeking to surf the wave of the Downton Abbey craze, I guess. Taking place in Britain and France the novel follows an assortment of characters through the tail end of the Edwardian and into the dark days of WWI. Belle Epoch is a distant memory. There are few battle scenes in the book but plenty of loathing and despair in a world gone mad. Luckily there are a lot of nurses.

    I’m 400 pages in, and a main character (Fenton) has survived the carnage and horror of the trenches and returns to England and undergoes deep introspection. He is forever changed. And he’s possibly eventually headed back to the trenches again before this thing is over, we’ll have to see. You can tell he’s grown because he turns down the advances of Charles’ wife, that rich conniving slut Lydia. That’s not easy because he’s really into the booze. But its top shelf whiskey. Like I said, he’s grown.

    During the respite he seeks out and marries the introverted but intelligent and naughty Winifred Sutton, a wealthy 20-yr old heiress with a really nice body and no agenda, and he buries himself in the refuge of her voluptuous tits and vast financial resources. Yeah. Ha ha. OK. But you have to understand this is a time when millions of Europeans are going over the cliff like lemmings, survivors are mentally destroyed and/or physically disfigured (e.g. a guy with his eyes blown out and cotton balls in the empty sockets, and another with no lower jaw), social class and conventions are turning upside down, while the latest look and fashion coming from Paris is all about small tits and no corsets. It’s freakin chaos. But he doesn’t care if small tits are in fashion, because this war just won’t fucking end, and he loves his Winifred. I also found myself in love with Winifred. Who the hell wouldn’t?

    Another male character (Martin), the only American in the book, takes more of the Hemingway trajectory (a la Farewell to Arms) in finding his own love, peace and resolution, however with a possible happy ending in this case. We’ll have to see. A pleasant surprise is this is actually a very well written book.

  38. Doom, never been there but I’d pick Budapest. If I ever got a chance to go there I’d probably arrange to stay a while.

  39. is that one of them astro-monkeys, or is it an astro-ape?

    dunno, if i had to choose between living with no eyes–just cotton balls stuffed in the sockets–or no lower jaw, maybe i’d take the cotton balls. i enjoy fine dining and top-shelf whisky.

  40. actually, there was a brief period when i worked as an engineer for the state of ct. that picture illustrates exactly how i felt going into, and doing, that job.

  41. ah, but the little monkey has been immortalized on film as a great hero among the genus homo, err, the ape family clad,… whatever.

    now, thanks to fame, if not fortune and the high-priced hookers, fine booze, cigars, and fast, stylistic italian sportscars that go with it, he/she has perfect strangers, even of different if related species, all inspired by her/his heroic deeds, and the courage (even if coaxed a bit) to boldly go where no monkey has placed opposible thumbs and toes before.

  42. new kunstlercast episode with jim interveiwing nicole foss (stoneleigh) of TAE. jim now does these episodes solo, without duncan. in the interview, nicole basically calls for a global financial crash within the next 5 years, probably sometime within BHO’s second term. this is her best guess at a collapse date.

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