84 Replies to “Crush – Open Thread July 2015”

  1. apparently, once you sign up for fb, you can never leave. kinda like hotel california that the eagles used to sing about.

    i have dead friends from college with fb pages. kinda a memorial site, i guess.

    of course, fb itself will die soon enough when we lose the grids. maybe that’s why fb doesn’t care whether it’s updated with real, live people.

  2. Might be a cultural thing with USA, Mt Rushmore ain’t exactly a recently updated page.

  3. doom, so i’m having some fun with paul chefurca (sp?) etal on fb. since you’re my friend, you can join in. if you want.

  4. FLASH: Yemen Hit with Tactical Nuke

    per my colleague, the sparkling flashes surrounding the mushroom-shaped blast cloud are consistent with high-energy particles hitting the CCD detector, probably neutrons. therefore a tactical nuclear device, probably a bunker-buster of ultimate Isreali origin. why no US MSM coverage?

  5. Interesting. Thanks Doom. Even the biggest bunker busters don’t throw a mushroom like that. Initial blast looks more conventional than nuke though. Whatever reason, that blow was delivered in anger. there’s A LOT more to this story.

  6. Nice 2 hour 45 min loop of this classic trance tune. Useful for upcoming zombie apocalypse interludes and sword-swing evolutionary justice smackdowns. Rock it rocket boyy. Run Forest!

  7. somebody should wake JR and tell him moron nuke pictures are now available to post on ZK.

    OTOH, maybe Open Thread June’s pic was JR just doing his prescient, futurist thaing, earlier than most of the monkeys.

    anyhoo, i need to check on “CCD camera effects of high-energy particles”. wonder if that will get the attention of the resident NSA spy’s search program?

    Bif, makes sense if it was a bunker buster that the first charge was conventional, probably a shaped charge to allow deeper placement of the nuke device. if the nuke led, it would have destroyed the deep delivery package.

    fuckin’ unbelieveable…

  8. i’ll go with you Bif. i’ve always wanted to photograph sparkely halos around nuke blast fireballs and watch their hot brown mushroom plumes soar upward into the stratosphere. just imagine what those particles are doing to your body if they set off a CCD array like that.

  9. snake eats its tail? polish blanket routine? (cut from bottom, sew to top). that’s funny, alright.

    actually, the “snake eats its tail” routine has a long-term resolution. maybe it’s similar for greece?

  10. “actually, the “snake eats its tail” routine has a long-term resolution. maybe it’s similar for greece?”

    do tell.

  11. well, considering the anatomy of a snake (how its guts and muscles are distributed), it’s conceivable that a snake could indeed eat its tail, and would receive nurishment for awhile, whilst becoming progressively shorter (not to mention silly looking and somewhat “self absorbed”). Assuming no secondary effects such as infection overcome the snake, this process could go on until the “vitals” are encountered. once the snake starts to consume its own abdomin and stomach, its going to destroy the very component parts that provide nutrients to its entire body. at that point, it has crossed its rubicon on the road to perdition. it might still function until the lungs are encountered. then, a rapid collapse of the lungs leads to cardio-pulmatory failure and death to snaky.

  12. alligators and crocs have a lot of body fat stored in their tails. i speculate that these large fat-based calorie reserves are called upon during lean times, when the food supply slackens. crabs do something similar, storing fat and colesterol within the underside of their shell. crabs are used to going from feast to famine, and can last a long time withour food or water.

  13. with the prominent exception of breakfast. sticky fermented natto? pungent, salty, bony fish boiled in soy sauce? pickled salty plums? you gotta be kidding.

  14. “As Keynes put it, “markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent”, so the timing of a crash remains conjectural. What we do know, however, is that the longer it is put off, the worse it will be when it happens.

    This being so, we need to bear in mind that the authorities will face a far bigger problem than they faced in 2008, and with even fewer available tools than they had at that time.

    For a start, they cannot cut interest rates that are already at zero.

    The bail-out of the banks cannot be repeated, because governments’ existing debt levels preclude the credible provision of yet more support. In other words, the trick of transferring banking losses to taxpayer balance sheets can’t be repeated without calling sovereign viability into question. This time, we may have no alternative to letting failed banks actually collapse.

    This in turn means that value loss could overwhelm institutional structures, and that whole systems may cease to function.”

    https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2015/06/15/53-greece-symbol-of-our-times/

  15. it’s the same old nut, your mortgages and CC debt may go away, but along with your bank accounts, stock portfolios, real estate valuations, and pensions. back to basics.

  16. overall, i like JHK’s view of things as “current events”, but he always glosses over the turmoil period, as if it’s going to turn out well for the survivors. i don’t think so. there are consequences. i also don’t think he appreciates the extent of the coming loss. his future view is another form of kumbaya, as if those left have no memories of the trauma, and conjure up hope and optimism from a heap of dead bodies rotting everywhere and a crumbling, burning urban and perhaps suburban environment that most live in. maybe some isolated farmers will be OK. they’ll have to dodge the occasional bandits and former nuke sites gone bad from lack of attention. ultimately, the climate change we’ve begun will be unstoppable (certainly by these survivors) and will kill them all.

    JHK misses or glosses over all of that. don’t be fooled by his considerble writing skills. you can drive semi-trucks through his logic holes and blindsides.

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/systemic-turmoil-structural-reform/

  17. yeah, i don’t go long with jhk’s vision of some kind of return to the 18’th century, or something like that, either. generally, he’s pretty good, entertaining. have you ever tried to read any of his novels? unbearable in my mind.

  18. one moron thing about JHK: for someone who writes about “too much magic”, he sure puts a lot of magical thinking into his novels. seems a tad hypocritical to moi.

  19. Some suburbanites still let their little kids feed the kangaroos at some of the caravan parks down the coast near here.
    They always seem oblivious to the nervous movements of other ‘roos in the mob when their kid starts squealing.
    Don’t suppose they’ve ever stopped to look at how much muscle is in them or hoe sharp the paws are.
    Anyway, one day someone will get really hurt when I’m there.
    Sometimes I like to get confirmation, that’s all.

    No one round here tries to feed or pat kangaroos.

  20. the koos remind me of deer. deer can be very dangerous, if provoked or if they think you have food for them and are not forking it over. of course, many a human has been kicked to death by getting too close to the operational end of horse’s or cow’s back legs. expect moron of those type deaths/injuries when livestock take back the center stage for transport.

  21. a good reply by FE over on OFW blog:

    OOTF = Owners Of The Fed, or the PTB

    Fast Eddy says:
    July 1, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    “I think you are engaging in wishful thinking.

    In the past 15 years or so OOTF basically thew all the rules of the game out the window. They loaned large amounts of money to people with bad credit — they allowed banks to engage in criminal schemes — they bailed out the entire system — they dropped rates to zero — they built ghost cities —- and they have done the unthinkable in printing trillions upon trillions of dollars.

    Never in the history of the world has this happened — all the leading economies are on board with this ‘insanity’

    Many people believe this is all planned — a means to an end —- or they think that the elites are simply stupid and venal…… (I used to think thoughts along these lines…)

    They think this because they have no read or do not understand Gail’s research — or similar research that a very few others have published. They do not understand that the fossil fuel age is about to end — and the elites are scrambling like cornered rats trying to keep the ship afloat awhile longer — because they feel the frigid air…. they know that there are no lifeboats… there are no islands to swim to.

    This is how I ended up on this blog — I was trying to understand why the central banks were engaging in these activities….

    Why are they committing suicide — are they stupid? Clearly not…

    Are they trying to enrich themselves? What use is another billion dollars if you are sure to lose everything.

    And then I realized that they were scared — they were desperate.

    Look around you — we have monumental asset bubbles…. this cannot be stepped down ….

    The stock markets are 100% Fed fueled…. if they slowed or stopped loaning money to corporations for buy-backs we do not get s step down… we get a massive calamity….

    If interest rates rise the entire system collapses… it cannot be stepped down….

    From what I can see there is no real plan here — other than attempting to keep BAU going for as long as possible —- we are walking the egg up to the top of the mountain higher and higher day after day…

    There absolutely has to be an enormous collapse — because all the tools that have been used to get us to keep BAU going for literally decades now — all the Keynesian policies without which we would have collapse long ago — haven been exhausted…

    Money printing is the absolute last gasp of a dying system.

    There can be no soft landing. The world is far too interconnected for that to happen — both in terms of supply chains and the financial system.

    Recall when Bernanke finished up he said essentially ‘I understand that a lot of people hate me because of the policies I introduced — but some day you will understand what I did was right — and you will thank me’

    I read that as ‘I don’t like being called a villain and a son of a bitch —- I have been fighting for your life — fighting to buy you a few more years — fighting to keep our civilization from collapsing — but I cannot tell you this — so this is my cryptic way of letting you know that I am on your side — I am the good guy — remember that when you are curled up in a corner dying in a few years’ [time].”

  22. TMK gets a lot of it, but the underlying fact is that oil = dense, relatively safe, transportable liquid power with a lot of nice attributes on the side, like carbon-based by-products that can be synthesized into almost anything imaginable. money = promised applied energy or work. growth of money (or wealth) went hand-in-hand with growth of cheap oil supply.

    we built a civilization upon growth that could pay back debt with interest and power (literally) ponzi schemes like social security, pensions for retirees, schooling and healthcare for all, community capital improvements, etc. now, the cheap oil has peaked in supply and we are left scrambling to paper-over its loss, pretending ever so unbeleiveably and desperately that growth is still possible, somewhere.

    we need another source of cheap, primary energy. so far, nothing has been proffered as a replacement, and the clock continues to tick on the oil flows.

  23. moron wisdom from my hero FE on OFW:

    Fast Eddy says:
    July 2, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    Indeed – how fortunate are we to have been born into the brief window of time when billions live like kings!

    Just think — if you were born 150 years earlier you’d almost certainly be living a life of drudgery — washing clothes by hand, no pick up truck to haul stuff around the farm, no concrete, no electricity (yes – even Scott Nearing was living like a king!) … comparative studies put people who lived in the 1800’s on the roughly same level as a peasant in Bangladesh… (I don’t imagine the Green Brigade would care much for that sort of life eh….)

    Or imagine what life would have been like if you were born 30,000 years ago — every moment consumed with finding food …. living in a cave or a straw hut…. worshiping the sun because the night brought cold and predators…. (that’s what sustainable living looks like — forget Nearing — strip down and run off into the forest and try to live off the land if you want to be true to the cause)

    We have most definitely won the lottery! We have little to complain about…

  24. eh, lucky? whatever. it’s all whatever you’re used to. if you took a guy from 30,000 ya and stuck him in a cube behind a computer for 8 hrs/day he’d go stark raving nuts. people today are conditioned from a very early age to be nuts (domesticated)…something like that. i’d say.

    but yeah, the life of a dirt farmer from 150 ya? fuck that shit.

    i think it was aristotle who said something like: “a life of leisure is the only life worth living.” i agree with that, no matter who said it first.

    a number of studies have shown that hunter gather types, particularly the men, lead a pretty leisurely life….fight, fuck, eat, hunt for a couple of hours a day….so that sounds pretty good to me.

  25. my father loved to hunt. we’d drive for hours to get to a “good” hunting or fishing spot, then spend hours walking around or hanging out fishing. i was always amazed at this urge. it was far easier just to go to the store. let the pros handle it. conditioning, i guess.

  26. yeah, all i can say is something like: i’ve spent time pulling weeds from acres of carrots, and i’ve spent time hunting and fishing. i’ll give you one guess what i’d rather be doing if given that kind of a choice.

    of course, who can argue with walking into a grocery store and picking up what you need, all nicely washed and packaged, especially if that’s what you’re accustomed to? i guess.

  27. what’s new & different on my summer vaction? amazing proliferation of digi cameras on “selfie sticks”. i mean, what kind of vacation shots are u going to share? “oh lookie, here’s a close-up of my butt”. why even travel if one is so self-absorbed? stay home, save the money for clothes & makeup.

  28. no matter how you cut it, kurt colbain and nirvana were ground-breaking, special rock. alas, he didn’t marry well, and let it get to him. a lot of tragedy in rock.

  29. WHEN YOU FEEL STUPID, READ THIS!
    You’ll feel much better about yourself afterward….
    And then read it again; you’ll begin to think you’re a Genius

    (On September 17, 1994, Alabama’s Heather Whitestone was selected as Miss America 1995.)
    Question: If you could live forever, would you and why?
    Answer: “I would not live forever, because we should not live forever, because if we were supposed to live forever, then we would live forever, but we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever,”
    –Miss Alabama in the 1994 Miss USA contest.
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    “Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can’t help but cry. I mean I’d love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff.”
    –Mariah Carey
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    “Smoking kills. If you’re killed, you’ve lost a very important part of your life,”
    — Brooke Shields, during an interview to become spokesperson for federal anti-smoking campaign
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    “I’ve never had major knee surgery on any other part of my body,”
    –Winston Bennett, University of Kentucky basketball forward.
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    “Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,”
    –Mayor Marion Barry, Washington DC
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    “That lowdown scoundrel deserves to be kicked to death by a jackass, and I’m just the one to do it,”
    –A congressional candidate in Texas ..
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    “Half this game is ninety percent mental.”
    –Philadelphia Phillie’s manager, Danny Ozark
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    “It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment. It’s all the impurities in our air and water that are doing it”
    –Al Gore, Vice President
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    “I love California .. I practically grew up in Phoenix ..”
    — Dan Quayle
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    “We’ve got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?”
    –Lee Iacocca
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    “The word “genius” isn’t applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.”
    –Joe Theisman, NFL Quarterback & sports analyst.
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    “We don’t discriminate. We simply exclude certain types of people.”
    — Colonel Gerald Wellman, ROTC Instructor.
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    “Your food stamps will be stopped effective March 1992 because we received notice that you passed away. May God bless you. You may reapply if there is a change in your circumstances.”
    –Department of Social Services, Greenville , South Carolina
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    “Traditionally, most of Australia ‘s imports come from overseas.”
    –Keppel Enderbery
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  30. “Half this game is ninety percent mental.”

    humm… let’s do some math. (0.50)(0.90) = 0.45 (100) = 45% mental in baseball. QED.

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